My heart is breaking

[Gothic Sponge]

I feel so bad for gays in America. Look at this pic... IMO you can see the pain in their faces. We've got to get Bush out of office!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

1. yes

before i double my daily dose on paxil (thanks for the thoughts..its not just the marriage its the righteous anger, even on this side, thats killing me)

[burythehatchet]

3. Are you seeing anger on this side?

Seriously. It would be really disappointing if that is the case.

[foreigncorrespondent]

7. Yes...

...especially here at DU.

Since the sodomy ruling people have begun showing their true colors.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. yes

on the democratic side its like we ruined their parade...they were just about to have a landslide victory and the fags and dykes ruined it for them

[BillZBubb]

23. I think you misinterpret the Democrats' reaction.

This is going to be a very close election. It is the Repugs not the Dems or gays who are making this a wedge. The Democrats cannot make gay rights a centerpiece of their campaign--and they can't let the Repugs paint it as one either. Attention has to be kept on Bush*s many failures.

Big social change, especially in a "religious" country like the U.S. has to come a step at a time. Go too fast, and the center moves away. We cannot risk that happening in this election. There is too much at stake.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

24. i agree with you

i dont expect kerry/edwards to stand and wave the rainbow flag..but look at some of the posts here...there is a definite anger against homosexuals

[Fleshdancer]

2. I'm right there with you

It's going to be a battle, but if history has taught us anything, it's that we are on the right side of the fight, and soon gays in America will have the rights they deserve.

[burythehatchet]

4. I got your back

I'm not gay but I'll fight to the death for your rights.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. thats sweet!

i am willing to let the issue slide but to say that we are a "wedge issue" is CRAP

[Lindsay]

5. It hurts me, too.

It hurts us all. We're talking about human rights and human dignity here...and to diminish the rights of anyone diminishes us all. So it's my fight, too.

[juajen]

11. Ditto here

No, I am not a dittohead. I hate they co-opted that word. Pray, march and demonstrate for restored democracy and spread the word. This is a human rights issue, not a gay issue. Every dem needs to join in and fight.

[boobooday]

6. Civil Righteousness

Oh the righteousness of the people who scour the bible for the most hateful passages and claim they are the word of God.

If there is a God, He will bitch-slap these haters straight to hell when they die for using Him, and religion, as a weapon of hatred against their fellow human beings.

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[dweller]

17. Already happened boobooday,

but sadly they don't realize it's this time to amend and make right the ways.

what an endless cycle.
dp

[Bundbuster]

8. Who's breaking your heart??

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. He is SO drunk in that top pic

[Cleita]

9. There is a bigger issue.

It's the infringement of the civil rights of a minority. If they can marginalize gays, they can do this to other demographics like women, the elderly. etc. for rights that are important to them. We can not allow this to happen.

[Lars39]

15. Yes!!! Exactly.

(I posted this in another thread....)
This touches on something I've been wrestling with today.


I think the whole civil unions, justice of the peace, marriage ceremony maze ought to be overhauled, not just because of the need to recognize the right for gays to be married, but to also protect anyone who would not or could not be married in a church. It's possible that somewhere down the line the repub-puritans would try to not recognize ANY ceremony unless it is done in a church. It's not too far-fetched, considering the attitude towards the unchurched.

Would it be acceptable for civil unions to be the only legally recognized contract(?) for everyone? Let church weddings be a very personal add-on option. I'm not talking about a 2-tier system of priviledges, though. I mean everyone would have to do the courthouse routine and everyone's legal rights would be the same.

This solution might rout the repub-puritans from their possibly next goal of targetting the unbelievers. I'd like to think that this would preserve everyone's rights, but I'm no legal scholar. Are there any downsides to this? Would the GLBT community consider this?

[grasswire]

16. thank you

I'm beginning to think this is related to the Bush family's long-standing romance with eugenics.

A war on the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, gays.....

It isn't far from that to "tinkering" with depopulation.

[lovedems]

14. The other side of the coin is the hapiness that I saw in the couples

that were getting married in CA. It was so much hapiness, it was moving. The importance for me is not only in the legal rights that the GLBT community would get, but it is for the HAPINESS that goes along with it. I say spread hapiness, not hate.

[koopie57]

18. it is so ironic

how the moral leaders of this country pick and choose what parts of the bible are relavent. Gay marriage is a sin because it says so in the bible but divorce is okay even though it says that what God has joined together, let no one put asunder (? asunder?). I think if you don't allow gay marriages cuz of the bible teachings, then we should no longer allow divorces. And what about adulterers. What should we do to them, stone them? People aren't even ashamed of that anymore and I think betraying someone's trust is much worse than loving a member of the same sex. Just MHO.

But in all actuality, I just can't believe that God is so worried about our sex lives. Out of a 30 year relationship, how much time is actually spent in the sex act? (Now, no bragging *S*). Wouldn't you think He'd be more concerned over the love shared, the trust and kindness shown, the nurturing and being there through the good and bad. It seems He was much more concerned with loving one another than boinking.

[IronLionZion]

19. In the past it was the blacks, Jews, Hispanics, women.

Irish, Catholics, Muslims, immigrants, etc. Many of us have equal rights today only because people like Martin Luther King fought for it in the past. We're all in this thing together. There are ignorant assholes in this world who love to bully certain groups of people. What happens when they come for you?

[magnolia]

20. Irony....

It's funny that back in the sixties and seventies we fought for the social right NOT to get married. Insisting on living together without the benefit of holy matrimony...insisting that we wouldn't allow our relationships be dictated by a piece of paper!

I am heterosexual and happily married and enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage. But...quite frankly...I'd be fine without that piece of paper.

But..that's me...and I believe that gay couples should have every right that anyone else has.

[xchrom]

21. this should be very important for straight folk as well

this is about equality under the law -- what person who is concerned about reproductive rights, human rights, womens rights, civil rights can resist the ugly gauntlet that has been thrown down by bush?
do the forces that want to remove the ''evolution'' from text books decide the direction of the country?
do people who want to send women back to the stone age get to determine the direction of the country?
this could be viewed as a wonderful opportunity -- gay folk like myself have waited so long to come even this far -- it's a great time to be alive and to over come if we let it.

[blm]

22. We'll get through this time...

Here's a promising statement from Teresa Heinz Kerry.

Teresa Heinz Kerry calls Bush's anti-gay amendment `divisive'


February  25,  2004

San Jose Mercury News

By Lori Aratani
San Francisco, CA -


Teresa Heinz Kerry, philanthropist and wife of Democratic front-runner Sen. John Kerry, swept through the Bay Area on Tuesday, accepting the endorsement of California firefighters on behalf of her husband and dismissing President Bush's backing of an amendment to ban gay marriage as "divisive politics."

"I think culturally we're going through a huge change," Heinz Kerry said. "I look at it in a human context, because I have friends in those situations and it's terrible. All we owe people is dignity, respect and civil rights. I think the country will evolve."

She added that her husband would vote against such an amendment if it's introduced in the Senate, and that while he supports same-sex civil unions, Kerry believes defining marriage should be a question left to the states.

"I think with time and without a lot of politicization of this we'll get there," said Heinz Kerry. "I think our country is basically a tolerant country."
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