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DennisReveni Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:19 AM
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Is this another dumb Democrat idea?
http://tompaine.com/blog.cfm/ID/9942
Bush may be trying to scare us about terrorism (see following item), but he's certainly scared the Democrats. The Dems haven't found their voice on this issue, and they sure won't if they let Hillary Clinton and Joe Lieberman speak for them. Clinton, Lieberman et al. seem to think that Democrats can win by accusing Bush of being soft on terrorism.

Come again?

Bush is Mr. Global War on Terrorism, and the Democrats ought to be saying that the GWOT is a crock, not urging Bush do to more. (One of the most misguided Democratic critiques of the war on Iraq is that it took needed energy away from the GWOT.) Yet here is today's Progress Report , from the Center for American Progress, trying lamely to take the terrorism issue away from Bush.

First, the Progress Report touts a speech at Brookings today by Hillary Clinton, calling the Department of Homeland Security a bureaucracy inadequate to its task. Clinton actually goes so far as to say the Department "has no single division exclusively focused on WMD." Is Hillary saying the terrorists actually have WMD? No credible terrorism expert thinks so. And—earth to Hillary—we didn't find them in Iraq, either.

Second, the Progress Report accuses Bush of a "lack of focus on cyberterrorism." Cyberterrorism? Has there ever been any? Anywhere? By anyone?

And third, the very worried Progress Report notes that Bush initially opposed the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Well, in my mind, score one for Bush. Creating that department was a dumb idea in the first place, and we can thank Lieberman for that. I'm for abolishing it.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:29 AM
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1. Cyberterrorism happens all the time
It's the creation of Viruses and letting them go. They might not be having the effect they want (for all we know most viruses are made by stupid kids, but they could also be put out by savvy anti capitalists or computer literate islamic fundamentalists. But my money is on the stupid kids), but they do cause economic damages to companies and what not.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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DennisReveni Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:36 AM
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2. True
True, but in the articles context cyberterrorism as relates to other forms of terrorism doesn't exist.
There is no unified group that consistently releases worms and viruses.
I think that was the point he was trying to make.
But, that was only a minor point of the article.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:37 AM
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3. If I were a conspiracy theorist...
I might posture that Hillary is scared that a Dem win in 2004 might push back her personal run at the White House to 2012 and she doesn't like that idea... :shrug:

I'm not a conspiracy theorist though, but I might be slightly suspicious. She is quite ambitious.
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DennisReveni Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:43 AM
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4. Agreed.
"Hillary is scared that a Dem win in 2004 might push back her personal run at the White House to 2012"

That is one of the ABB, actually ADBB, crowd. The DNC/DLC knows Hillary is chomping at the bit for 2008. So, they can run, and support, a weaker candidate than people really want.
And the ADBB fools will go right along with it.
Luckily, unless there is massive vote rigging that can't be explained away, Bushco has been shooting themselves in the foot.
Of course it could always be because Bushco knows things will get so bad that they really want a Democrat in to take the heat.
I just find it strange that they have made all these recent missteps.
Quite unlike the crowd that got anything they wanted since 2000.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 09:43 AM
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5. Locking
Rules to start discussion threads in the General Discussion forum

2. The subject line of a discussion thread must accurately reflect the actual content of the message.

Also note that this is a blog and the "Shrillery Clinton" gives it away as a hit piece.
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