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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:09 PM
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John McCain Blames Military For Iraq Aftermath.
I'm surprised no-one else caught this on Tweety's show last night. Out of pure laziness, I decided to wait until the transcript was up to post this.


Hardball Transcript

-SNIP-

MATTHEWS: Do you think we made adequate preparation for the reconstruction of Iraq, recognizing that the majority of that country is Shiite and could well form a majority government that is adversarial to us? And that wasn‘t really examined ahead of time as a very good, in fact, a probable result of our war? We find ourselves with two Irans instead of an Iran and an Iraq?

MCCAIN: I think the mistake that was made ahead of time, Chris, was the entire issue of post-conflict Iraq.

MATTHEWS: Right.

MCCAIN: The difficulty, the job, the size of the challenge. Part of

it is what you said, the Ba‘athists, the whole situation was underestimated

by the administration and, frankly, the military, as well.


We did a superb job, but now they find themselves in very dangerous circumstances, but I think we‘re making progress.

-SNIP-

Uh, John... the military is commanded by the civilian government. You should be ashamed of yourself. Where's the outrage? Where's the venom? This man obviously hates the military.


Jay
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:15 PM
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1. Well, I blame John McCain for supporting the
Fraud living in the WH, especially since McCain knows what he's capable of doing. He knows this is The Administration's and Rummy's fault. But he's divided up the blame amongst nameless generals, etc so the Chimp won't look so inept. Shame on you, John McCain.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:20 PM
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4. I Wonder If He Blames The Military For Our Stunning...
success in Vietnam. One thing I forgot to mention is, why the hell is he giving an interview covering subject matter that is before a special commission he will participate in? Shouldn't he be keeping his mouth shut?

Jay
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:18 PM
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2. I've been so disappointed with McCain lately
I was never really a huge fan, but saw him differently that your average run-of-the-mill evil repukes (Delay, *, Cheney, etc.) After what was done to him by people in this administration, I'm shocked that he's out there, not just campaigning for them, but making excuses for them at the military's expense! Of all people.....
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:19 PM
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3. Right Off
I am really surprised at McCain, especially after the sliming he took by the Bushistas in South Carolina.

He has been a real disappointment lately.

O
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:20 PM
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5. At least there is a Major Republican saying "All is not Well" in Iraq
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM by Bandit
He admits it is/was a mistake. That IMHO is big news. Most GOPers are saying all is well. the Iraqis are better off and Democracy is flurishing. At least McCain admits Iraq is a major problem. I suspect he wants to lay some opf the blame on the military because we are saying what a splendid job Clinton's military has done.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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6. What angers me....
is that McCain is going all over the cable tv shows saying that Bush did not hype or lie about the Iraqi threat with their WMD and yet he is on the panel to investigate the Iraq intel. He is not going into this with any objectivity.....And he is one of the more moderate repubs on the damn panel!
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:24 PM
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7. well, Clinton's military was methodically dismantled and restaffed
with wimps of Rumsfeld's choosing. Anyone who stood their ground against him was summarily "retired."
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:29 PM
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8. Exactly Right And It Was Done Publicly.
Remember Gen. Shinseki?

Jay
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 05:46 PM
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9. May I ask if you know anything about John McCain
when you post that he hates the military?
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:40 PM
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12. Yup, I know Plenty About John McCain.
Thats why it's such a disgrace that he gave the answer that he did. I also know that he does not hate the military. That comment was aimed straight at the hypocritical right.

Jay
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:09 PM
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10. The buck stops at the . . . troops???
Dear John, in our system the military follows the orders of the president.

If the Chimp was afraid the UN inspectors would foil his war, and so ordered Franks to start without the 4th ID, with inadequate protection of their LOC, with no containment in the North, then what does McCain suggest? Mutiny?

While he can cite mistakes by the military, the RESPONSIBILITY belongs exactly where Harry Truman said it does.

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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 06:13 PM
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11. "cakewalk"

as ex-CIA Ray McGovern pointed out recently (in an article I don't have time to find right now, sorry)

the WH believed their propaganda about the "cakewalk" and "showers of flowers"

blame it on bad intel. and try another cup of tea leaves...
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