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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:57 AM
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UK spy case collapse: the Thatcher/Opus Dei connection
There was widespread disbelief when former GCHQ Chinese-specialist Katherine Gun was acquitted earlier this week in the UK High Court of breaching the Official Secrets Act by leaking an email to the Observer newspaper which stated that UN member states had been spied on in the run up to the Iraq war:

Here's the background link from BBC News incase anyone missed the story:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3489096.stm

What has so far not emerged in the press is the actual reason why the UK law chief dropped the case. The press has quoted the Attorney General Lord Goldsmith as saying the prosecution could not offer up any evidence. End of story.

What has NOT been stated is that this email, processed by the UK's GCHQ listening station in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, is the major centre for analysing intelligence mainly from the US, China, Israel and major Gulf Co Operations States like the UAE and Bahrain. And that Ms Gun, a Mandarin speaker and Chinese specialist, inadvertently stumbled on a UN counter-intelligence operation, designed to trace a criminal network linked to Opus Dei recruits in the Aldrich Ames and Bob Hanssen spying network. (Both Ames - ex CIA - and Hanssen - ex FBI - are serving life sentences for spying).

In late 1998, the UN Security Council launched a number of covert operations to trace the funding structures and finance channels that were backing the election of the next Pope following intelligence that drugs barons and vice operators were busy moving their covert staches around offshore tax havens.

Intelligence sources had data that showed that big hitters were lobbying for a Chinese Pope. Trying to replicate the Polish Pope/collapse of Communism in the Eastern bloc scenario no doubt when JP2 pops his clogs.

Monitoring of illicit drug payment channels linked to Nauru, the Dutch Antilles and the Cayman Islands showed that a number of criminal organisations were depositing sums of between $10 and $50 million in a series of dormant feeder accounts.

These were monitored and found to be linked to the illicit confiscation of funds, frozen in the late 1980s and early 1990s, from high profile film actors, musicians and entertainment industry people who had been caught in a series of paedophile raids. Many had been persuaded to do a plea bargain in exchange for hefty fines and confiscation of tax-haven funds they had stashed away to escape the clutches of the taxman. One such person to be busted was Australian musician Michael Hutchence, the INXS band member who allegedly committed suicide a few years ago.

The sex rings that operated paedophile services for these people were well established and based in Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, Macao and small islands in the Australasian area. A series of raids also established the correlation between these service providers to a series of corrupt banks from the 1970s to the 1990s. Top of the list was Banco Ambrosiano - the Vatican Bank whose GM Roberto Calvi was murdered in 1982 when the bank collapsed owing $billions - and BCCI.

When Aldrich Ames and Bob Hanssen were busted, a series of covert US and UN ops led to the financial links between all the above organisations.

The biggest surprise, however, was that large scale donors to Margaret Thatcher's Thatcher Foundation were found to be connected to this criminal structure and were also financing Opus Dei. Further investigation showed that their objective was to lobby for and eventually bankroll the election of a Chinese Pope after JP2.

This story leaked and security/intelligence agencies were concerned that, given the huge sums of money involved, even bigger criminals would join the bandwagon. Like Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the Russian Yukos Chief now banged up in jail by Vladimir Putin. A great chum of UK banker Lord Rothschild.

A series of internet ops was initiated to monitor the circulation and distribution of intelligence on the black market.

One op was this counter-intelligence scenario of 'proof' that the US/UK was spying on UN member states in the run up to the Iraq war.

It was like monitoring a chain letter or one of those internet pyramid selling schemes where you send $1000 to the name on top of the list and are 'guaranteed' to receive up to $48,000 if you recruit 10 members who join the scam (remember Women Empowering Women???)

Upshot of the collapsed case is that Gun's defence team would have said in open court that if she was 'guilty' of a breach of the Official Secrets Act, then Thatcher should be prosecuted for her role in the bankrolling of this putative Chinese Pope scam.

Don't know if any UK Sunday papers will get through the morass of injunctions that are gagging any further discussion of this in the UK press. Expect Shrub's Poodle will continue to gag all mention of this conection.

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:07 AM
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2. ???? The only entirely copyrighted articles mentioned above
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 10:14 AM by emad aisat sana
is the link to the BBC story.

The rest is my own personal copyright, posted free of charge of the DU.

IE EVERYTHING AFTER THE BBC LINK QUOTED IS MY OWN PERSONAL POSTING. THE BBC STORY IS A SMALL BIT OF BACKGROUND EXPLANATION . IT HAS NO CONNECTION TO MY POSTING.

What are you referring to?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:17 AM
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4. You're just too good
I guess
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:43 AM
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10. Let it drop
Let's not get the thread locked/deleted because of a side issue that
was an understandable mistake and has been apologised for.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:01 AM
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16. Sorry
Didn't mean to hound you. It was still there when I posted.

Synchronisation issues are real buggers at times.

Apologies.

Nihil
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Evil_Dewers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:06 AM
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19. Didn't mean to hound you.
Hey, no problem. Actually, I was in the middle of editing that post (since I knew it was too harsh) when the mod deleted it.

LOL!
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:27 AM
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7. take it as a compliment
Most people don't write that well.

Anyway, in regard to this story, which gets more bizarre at every turn, could a political thriller top this?


Cher

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:03 AM
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17. The truth behind the BFEE can sometimes read like a thriller
if it weren't so horribly, disgustingly awful.

I am hoping in the next few weeks to post on the DU the entire family tree of the UK, European, Middle Eastern and Asian BFEE. Thatcher is the lynchpin and the origins of the BFEE power today lie in unresolved criminal issues left over from World War 2.

The current BCCI UK lawsuit is about to speed up a little and promises to be the blockbuster of all BFEE horror stories.

I've commented a little on that here on the DU but am constrained about what I can and cannot post as are all 'expert witnesses' who are scheduled to testify.

What has made it difficult is that much BFEE criminal activity in the UK has been gagged under the Official Secrets Act to protect felons in the House of Windsor who have been shielded by Thatcher, John Major and now Blair, from public prosecution.

Luckily, as I posted before, excerpts from private historical documents bequeathed by the late President Harry S Truman can be aired in the UK BCCI lawsuit because they bear direct and significant relevance to the crooks that operated this scam as a result of post World War 2 negligence. They form part of the prosecution testimony available to the lawsuit.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:03 PM
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24. very much looking forward to this
Latest installment in the real life political thriller!


Cher
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:55 AM
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13. Can you recommend any articles
(or books) on these issues? Your post is tantalizing--but there is so much there that one needs to know a lot more even to understand what you are getting at.

For example, the idea of a Chinese pope--I can imagine this being supported by a variety of groups with very different agendas and reasons (some good and some bad). On the money trail from child pornography/prostitution (as with money from drugs), it is very hard not to wonder how involved the intelligence agencies worldwide are in promoting (for the alleged purpose of exposing?) such activities. The more I read, the less faith I have that ANY information that I (as an ordinary citizen) might have access to is anything but disinformation by some group or other. And then, I have to wonder if even the mass of conflicting info out there isn't meant to leave people bewildered and feeling helpless to sort it all out.

So, it would be great to have some sources for your very troubling information.... Or are you investigating this and plan to write a book (with footnotes) yourself? Let us know.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:06 AM
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18. My post # 17 refers
There is somewhere in cyberspace an article in the UK Sunday Times (can't remember if it's 2001/2002/2003 about the Chinese Pope issue and the role of the UK intelligence services
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:09 AM
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3. What he said.
Geez.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:39 AM
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9. I apologize for the error.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 10:42 AM by TahitiNut
I'm also tempted to apologize for being polite and making the obviously imperfect effort to serve as a moderator. The grace and civility of the response is sometimes overwhelming. I guess the secret is out: I'm human.

Thanks for your understanding and cooperation,
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:53 AM
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12. Thank you for the apology.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:57 AM
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15. Very interesting point that's slipping through the cracks ..
> ... former GCHQ Chinese-specialist Katherine Gun ...

I thought I heard this on the radio originally and have only now been
reminded to check this up. It's true enough ... she is a "fluent
Mandarin speaker" who was educated in Taiwan before moving to England
to study A-levels and, eventually, go on to read modern Chinese with
Japanese at Durham University. (Her father is a lecturer and is still
working in Taiwan).

Struck me as odd that she would be in the chain for a document from
an English speaker like Annan.

Similarly, I wouldn't expect her to try revealing any of her direct
line work in court as, again, why the Chinese/Japanese connection
when the pressure was on the small nations?

If, however, the "moral justification" that she was feeling arose
from some of the other abuses of intelligence power that she'd seen,
then that would definitely be in the grey area - the zone where there
was enough doubt of revealing even the existence (if not the content)
of puppet masters to ensure that this must never see the light of day.

Hence the (unprecedented?) "stuff the law, we're letting you off".

I am also 100% certain that she wouldn't have to sign any further
"non-disclosure agreement" as a strictly verbal, deniable and totally
off the record conversation will have left her in no doubt where she
would stand (or lie) if her mouth was to open again.

Nihil
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:10 AM
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20. All the previous UK spies were busted:
Tomlinson and Shayler for example.

It is also perhaps relevant to ote that in December 2002, there was a big hit in the UK press that 'Thatcher was on doctor's orders' not to speak out any more or make any comments about anything in public.

She too signed a plea bargain when they booted her out of office in October 1990 (just before the first Gulf War) admitting her BFEE role in exchange for partial immunity during the lifetime of Queen Elizabeth II.

Not many people know that.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:10 AM
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21. Sorry, dupe here
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 11:13 AM by emad aisat sana
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:36 AM
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22. Thank you for the update
The scope of their vileness is stunning.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:53 AM
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23. Whoa Nellie
Unbefrickinglievable...thanks for the heads up.

The greatest conspiracy is the conspiracy of silence.

O
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 07:18 AM
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25. Internet ops, counter-intelligence scenario?
A series of internet ops was initiated to monitor the circulation and distribution of intelligence on the black market.

One op was this counter-intelligence scenario of 'proof' that the US/UK was spying on UN member states in the run up to the Iraq war.


I find this an interesting idea.

You mean the story of the UN employees being spied upon was part of such a counter-intelligence operation? What was the aim? To distract attention? Or to watch the diffusion of information?

Do you have some more hints that support your theory?

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