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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:09 AM
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Bush is starting a culture war to distract us from the class war
that the wealthy have been waging on us.

Somebody needs to pick up this message. I don't know why we run from "class warfare" - our side in this war is much much larger.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:12 AM
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1. and the Democrats are helping
Democrats like cultural wars because sometimes it's a winning issue for them and they can gloss over their own service to the rich and their payoffs from Corporate America.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:15 AM
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2. no kidding: see last night's debates
both Kerry and Edwards are against gay marriage, and think it should be up to the states???? what the hell!!!!@

I thought we were the federalists (this is the same problem I had with Dean and guns)
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WitchWay Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:39 AM
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7. Right on!
I agree. It really disturbs me when people start talking about hating republicans and stuff...I can see disagreements, or heated arguments, or debate...and even disliking republicans...but Hate? That's a little strong. People all face alot of the same shit regardless of party-loyalty, and hatred just works to the advantage of the the powerful. republicans aren't terrilbe, horrible monsters and people need to be more respectful of other people, especially these days.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:19 AM
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3. That's effective lobbying for you
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 10:20 AM by KevinJ
You have to hand it to Repukes, they've done a brilliant job of equating in the eyes of the average voter anyone who calls attention to the widening gap between rich and poor with wagers of "class warfare," i.e., commie pinkos out to nationalize the economy and steal all of hard-working Americans' resources and redistribute them to deadbeats and loafers who are just too lazy to work. That's one of my biggest beefs with Clinton. By signing the welfare destruction act back in '96, he lent the legitimacy of bipartisan approval to what was otherwise just a particularly smelly bit of right-wing propaganda. How do you go back later and fight a point that now both parties' elected officials have agreed upon as a universal truism?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:20 AM
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4. You are right!
I thought Rev. Sharpton addressed this issue last night. But it is extremely important that the good people on this forum take this message to the public.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:21 AM
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5. It doesn' work
Most Americans aren't going to by a class based analysis, if presented to them in that way. They are more open to the idea the corporations are screwing their employees, or that congress people or the President are screwing the people, than to class war. The difference is that a class war would imply that the system was broken; talking about individuals tells us that the individuals are broken.

Plus, most Americans think they will be rich someday and they don't want anybody screwing up the party before they get there.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:53 AM
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8. You are right in that....
... the message has to be accessable to the audience. You have to speak the language that those you are speaking to understand. I can't speak French to someone who speaks Chinese. But there are many, many people who understand the language of class warfare. And for those who have mastered this tongue, it's time to speak out.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 10:33 AM
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6. Consistent modus operandi of *: start many brushfires and know they all
can't be put out simulantaneously.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:04 AM
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9. They have been doing it for years
and now that it affects the middle class, all of a sudden everybody takes notice?
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