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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:50 PM
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Is Alan Colmes a real "liberal?"
I've never seen the Hannity & Colmes show. I won't watch faux! After reading Al Franken's book 'Lies and the Lying Liars' i get the feeling that Colmes is a little puppet over at faux. So, is he a handpicked (weak liberal) plant by Hannity or can he hold his own in a debate? Just curious.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:50 PM
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1. Hardly
"Oh, gee, Sean, you're right again" (snivel-snivel)
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:51 PM
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2. colmes = puppet... or purposely chosen to represent liberals because...
... Fox knows he is weak.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:51 PM
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3. No
Alan Colmes is a 'house liberal'.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:52 PM
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4. Milquetoast: Yes
Liberal: :shrug:
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:53 PM
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5. I also read the book
and I saw him on Hannity&Colmes when Hannity had the day off. Colmes is timid, but he at least seems to be liberal.

I don't watch Faux either, but I was channel surfing at the time and thought it might be interesting.

BTW, would you know what nt stands for? I still haven't figured that out.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:49 PM
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25. nt="no text" in the message box, just a subject caption. (nt)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:53 PM
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6. Whatever he is, he's a weak milquetoast
EXACTLY the wrong person to sit opposite Hannity, except that the mission is not to create an entertaining, fair show but a Propganda vehicle.
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:54 PM
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7. No
He's there as a straw man for Hannity to throw stones at, that's all.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:55 PM
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8. I'd pay to see a Carville/Hannity grudge match
What would the undercard be?
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:57 PM
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10. Franken/O'Really...of course
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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:59 PM
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Bartcop v O'Lielly
Followed by Alterman v Hume.

We'd kick their collective ass.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:59 PM
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14. that's no match
Carville would talk circles around hapless Hannity...

And, Franken vs O'Lielly would be a good undercard (or co-headliner)
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:22 PM
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23. Would this match be
in a steel cage?
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:57 PM
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9. No,
Stop watching and you will feel better.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:58 PM
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11. Ha?
I said I don't watch faux......
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:59 PM
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12. You should always be suspicious of "liberals" on Faux
Colmes, Estrich, Bruce, Dick Morris, etc. DINOs all of them. If Faux was truly "fair and balanced" they would have people like Howard Zinn, James Carville, and others on to present the real left.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 04:09 PM
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27. Dick Morris A Liberal? Spare Me!!
This political whore worked for Trent Lott for goodness sakes. He's worked on more GOOP campaigns that Democrats and until Clinton suprisingly brought him onboard he was the next Atwater in the Repugnican sky.

This assclown is constantly wrong in his predictions when he isn't going off again on his non-stop hatred of Hillary. Not to mention this weasel's personal history.

Faux throws a token "Democrat" as opposed to a liberal. Colmes role is to play the old New Deal/Great Society Democrat, not today's Progressive or Liberal. He throws out arguments from out of the 70's and 80's...thus always on the defensive and allowing Hannity to look good.

A strong liberal on Faux would create tons of headaches as he/she would rub egos with the existing large Apes (O'Reilly, Hannity, Hume, Gibson) and offend many of the network's key benefactors. A token liberal plays the foil that builds up the message that has lured the audience it currently has...that put it atop the cable ratings.

But, I suspect the golden days of Faux are in our rear view. After sharp rises, based on adding a lot of cable systems, Faux has levelled off on it's numbers and has been flat since the end of the invasion. If anything, it's lost traction to its competitors as it was virtually shut out of the Democratic debates which have drawn large audiences. Add to that the massive PR black eye Franken gave the whole network in the wake of its frivolous lawsuit that exposed the network's bias in the wide open.

Good news is many Americans who took news for entertainment are now looking at things differently. We've had two and half years of economic stagnation, terror alerts, service cuts, gas and fuel oil hikes, war, polarization and now obvious lying and deception from this regime. People are looking real close at what's going on, whose doing what and how it's being said. This is very good for us indeed!

Let Faux continue to be the right wing shill...they serve us well as a connection into their myopic, paranoid world and shows us, unfiltered, what we're up against. This network's brazen right wing tilt looks less credible as it avoid issues many Americans...especially swing voters want to focus in on.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:59 PM
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13. sure
he's a liberal in as much as a doormat is a piece of furniture.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:00 PM
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15. No--he is just a token to make Fox look "fair and balanced"
I've never seen him sincerely take a liberal point of view.

He's a plant.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:07 PM
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16. Here's a blast from the past on one Alan Colmes
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:08 PM
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17. Hell no
I saw him on the 700 Club once whining to Pat Robertson about how those big bad liberals were so mean to him.

He's a pathetic sack of shit, is what he is.
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packerssuck Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:09 PM
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18. He's the Nipsy Russel of Democrats. (Uncle Tom to Repukes)
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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:12 PM
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19. No.
At non-Faux venues he has frequently admitted that he is not a liberal, but a moderate. (and I often doubt he is even that)

And yet, he tries to wear the liberal label as he lies down every day for idiot Hannity to walk all over.

I hate Colmes even more than Hannity. He was clearly picked because of his nebbishy looks and his total lack of interest or ability to debate a topic with any gusto (or info to back himself up) He is a republican stooge, and therefore a de facto republican.
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Mick Knox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:13 PM
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20. I believe he is "liberal"
He may not be a frothing militant.. but neither is most of the party.. but he has good ideas... read his book. I also consider him sensible.
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Warren Stuart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:21 PM
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21. By real "liberal"
If you mean someone who fights for justice with passion and intelligence, Someone who fights for truth and fairness. Someone who can see both sides without caving in to the other side.

SOMEONE WHO IS MOTIVATED BY HIS CONSCIENCE NOT BY HIS WALLET!!!!!!

Then no, Colmes is not a liberal, he's a whore.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:21 PM
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22. YES HE IS! Only when he's not on a FOX TV or radio program.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 03:22 PM by no_hypocrisy
If you can listen to him on any show from WEVD in NY before September 1, 2001, you can hear yourself that Alan was a progressive liberal.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 04:06 PM
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26. Agree.
Get him away from Faux and he's okay.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 03:42 PM
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24. "I'm not a real liberal,
but I play one one TV"
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 04:14 PM
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28. I think he believes in liberal values
However I think he was purposely picked by Colmes because he is not nearly aggressive enough in defending his positions.

Thus I think its Hannity trying to reinforce the view of many conservatives that liberals are wishy-washy and don't strongly defend their positions.
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 04:16 PM
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29. He's another Tom Braden -
for anyone old enough to remember the original liberal foil to Pat Buchanan on Crossfire. Except...I think Colmes is more of a sell-out to his bosses at Fox, whereas Braden really was a true liberal, but also just a totally inept punching bag for Buchanan.
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