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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:48 PM
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The war in Iraq is over???? the new spin
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 06:49 PM by Mari333
There seems to be a new spin going on in the media that somehow the war in Iraq is over and Ive even had people coming up to me on the streets saying "Why are you having a peace vigil for the soldiers? They all came home "...this is because the news is ignoring Iraq right now, and ignoring the wounded and the dead and the funerals and the fact there are many of us here whose kids JUST got sent over there...Election season, folks, and we are blacked out EVEN MORE then we were before..the war isnt over by a longshot, and the kids are still over there, 109,000 of them in Iraq like sitting ducks..and thats the spin the White House wants to put into peoples minds..like its all over and our kids are safe..THEY ARENT SAFE...I talked with a woman today whose son is in the 82nd airborne and she and I are both anti war activists with kids over there..shes angry too..her son is in very dangerous territory and we are both seeing the spin..as tho the occupation is over..it isnt over and our kids are all still at risk..

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/27/schroeder.bush/index.html

CNN's Stephanie Halasz said: "The U.S. perception of Germany appears to be improving, perhaps because the war is now over."





http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/27/schroeder.bush/index.html
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POed_Ex_Repub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:49 PM
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1. How do you suppose they'll vote...
When it's November and our troops are still in Iraq?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:52 PM
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3. Not one casket on the news, not one funeral , Walter Reed on
a blackout..the spin is to keep the lid on the truth
http://www.channel4.com/news/2004/02/week_2/10_iraq2.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:01 PM
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9. Mari, is there an organized effort to make the media show the wounded and
the caskets? This just burns me up when I think about it.

It sounds morbid, but people are forgetting our men and women over there. Only the media can make the average voter remember.

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:04 PM
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12. Yes massive protests at Dover and Ft Bragg
details here
http://www.mfso.org
assuming the media will show up of course.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:54 PM
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18. front page of our local paper
about a funeral for a NINETEEN year old GIRL reservist(just like georgie!) who was killed last week.
19
NINETEEN
NINETEEN YEARS OLD.

FUCK YOU GEORGE.
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:50 PM
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2. You're kidding, right??
Oh, this makes me so sad. Surely, someone didn't actually believe that all the soldiers came home? Oh, Lord, see what we are up against?

This is very depressing.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:03 PM
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10. When is the last time we heard ANYTHING about Afghanistan?
Anything at all...?

WE must give the media their spine, but how?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:25 PM
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15. Snotty McCellen said

that women are FREE in Afghanistan...

has anyone even told the WH that the Taliban is back?

my head just spins...
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:04 PM
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13. Yep,War's over...time to charge SH for planning 9/11....
Unbelievable how STUPID a HELL of alot of Murinkan's are.....


David
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:54 PM
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4. Mari, Ive been reading your threads and must tell you how
deeply I feel for you and your family. My hopes are for your son's safe return.

I have notice very little news coming out of Iraq this entire week.
I think the regime is definitely trying to tamp down the news on what's happening over there.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:56 PM
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5. The news has been all "Gay Marriage," "Haiti," "Howard Stern..."
They've even stopped talking about the Iraqi elections, even though Ayatollah al-Sistani has said that the new time table for hand-over and elections is unacceptable, and he will call for a fucking intifada!

But you're right... right off the front pages... :grr:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:56 PM
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6. One reason is that this maladministration is proud to show kids comin home
they do not tell of the ones taking their places.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:04 PM
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11. As long as they aren't in caskets or on gurneys...
Wait--no one is getting injured or killed, what was I thinking???

//sarcasm off
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:57 PM
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7. Have a parade, call 'em heroes, closure. Forget the next shift, right?.n/t
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:00 PM
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8. another cover up basically
and there are thousands of families freaking out here and not sleeping and wondering why , again, the media does not give a shit again. They sure have blood on their hands .
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:16 PM
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14. a good site to keep up on whats happening in Iraq now
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 07:20 PM by Mari333
Washington Conceals US Casualties in Iraq

by David Walsh, Coastal Post Online
March 1st, 2004


The Bush administration is deliberately concealing from the American people the number and condition of US military personnel who have been wounded in Iraq. The efforts by those few politicians and media figures who have pursued the issue make this clear.

Estimates on the number of US soldiers, sailors and Marines medically evacuated from Iraq by the end of 2003 because of battlefield wounds, illness or other reasons range from 11,000 to 22,000, a staggering figure by any standard. Thousands of these young men and women have been physically or psychologically damaged for life, in turn affecting the lives of tens of thousands of family members and others. And the war in Iraq is less than one year old.
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=22









http://www.occupationwatch.org
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:34 PM
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16. Let's keep this thread kicked.
:kick:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:44 PM
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17. read this, and its pretty painful
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 07:55 PM by Mari333
Fresh out of boot-camp GIs: killed, wounded, or damaged; one 18 year old reportedly crumbled psychologically after his first kill. He said, "it was nothing like video games." He was lucky his PTSD qualified him for a return to the States; too many GIs are killed by IEDs tossed into their vehicles or left on the roads, or by "friendly fire."





http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0218-05.htm

these are teenagers with guns they are sending.

and this:
http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=3288
On Feb. 18, four of Saleh's daughters crouched with her in the dirt, skirts gathered around their knees, as they planted peas in their small plot near a main road through the village. The convoy rumbled by, followed by a loud blast from a homemade bomb. Gunshots rang out through the smoke, and villagers yelled, "Run! The Americans are shooting!"

Saleh joined other farmers as they dashed through mud to take refuge at the banks of a canal. The soldiers followed them, she said, as they tried to jump on a neighbor's flatbed truck and drive away from the danger.

Fourteen-year-old Intisar was the first to fall. The bullet split open her head and scattered her brains across the earth.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:48 AM
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19. Back to One.
:kick:
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 04:53 AM
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20. SAY WHAT?
If it's over... SEND MY HUSBAND HOME.
He'll tell you it sure as hell ain't over.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 05:25 AM
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21. Bush lied, people died
but if no one remembers this atrocity, how then will similar events be prevented in the future?

"If this is to be our end, then I would have it be such an end to be worthy of rememberance!"
-King Theoden, LOTR The Two Towers

BUSH IS EVIL. He certainly won't remember those who died so he could get his grubby oil money.:mad: :mad: :mad:
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