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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:08 PM
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The missing people-shredder
More lies?
Hadn't seen this here yet...

The horror of one of Saddam's execution methods made a powerful pro-war rallying cry - but the evidence suggests it never existed

Brendan O'Neill
Wednesday February 25, 2004
The Guardian

Forget the no-show of Saddam Hussein's WMD. Ask instead what happened to Saddam's "people shredder", into which his son Qusay reportedly fed opponents of the Ba'athist regime.

Ann Clwyd, the Labour MP who chairs Indict, a group that has been campaigning since 1996 for an international criminal tribunal to try the Ba'athists, wrote of the shredder in the Times on March 18 last year - the day of the Iraq debate in the House of Commons and three days before the start of the war. Clwyd described an Iraqi's claims that male prisoners were dropped into a machine "designed for shredding plastic", before their minced remains were "placed in plastic bags" so they could later be used as "fish food".

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An Iraqi who worked as a doctor in the hospital attached to Abu Ghraib prison tells me there was no shredding machine in the prison. The Iraqi, who wishes to remain anonymous, describes the prison as "horrific". Part of his job was to attend to those who had been executed. Did he ever attend to, or hear of, prisoners who had been shredded? "No." Did any of the other doctors at Abu Ghraib speak of a shredding machine used to execute prisoners? "No, never. As far as I know was the only form of execution used there."

Clwyd insists that corroboration of the shredder story came when she was shown a dossier by a reporter from Fox TV. On June 18, Clwyd wrote a second article for the Times, citing a "record book" from Abu Ghraib, which described one of the methods of execution as "mincing". Can she say who compiled this book? "No, I can't." Where is it now? "I don't know." What was the name of the Fox reporter who showed it to her? "I have no idea." Did Clwyd read the entire thing? "No, it was in Arabic! I only saw it briefly." Curiously, there is no mention of the book or of "mincing" as a method of execution on the Fox News website, nor does its foreign editor recall it.

(Note the mention of FOX?)

More here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/analysis/story/0,3604,1155399,00.html

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:12 PM
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1. Just like the baby incubator story during the first Gulf War....
:eyes:

They NEVER existed....
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:19 PM
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3. The brave Kuwaiti maidens who had to wash their own clothes did, though

That was my favorite propaganda piece from the 91 crusade.

The horror! The shame! There was not a dry eye in the house!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:33 PM
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6. Just like Noriega and his voodoo shrine
and kiddie porn collection?

Just like Bill Clinton and the stolen China from Airforce 1 and the Warm Pizza Boxes?

Just like Gary Condit and the gay, black, Hatian biker who disposed of Chandra's body for him?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:17 PM
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2. They probably got it confused with some US cluster bombs (nt)
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PsychoDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:22 PM
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4. The pretty yellow ones?
The same color as the food packs?
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 09:31 PM
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5. Yes! The US military thinks ahead! Today's toddler could be

tomorrow's rogue native attempting to thwart US objectives and steal American oil!

Some of them are blue. Kids love blue!
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