Full Page God Bless Bush Letter in Sunday Paper

[fencesitter]

Did any one get this in their Sunday Paper? Philadelphia Inquirer for me has a Dear Mr. President, thanks for the marriage ammendment, we're deeply grateful, we pledge to you, and God bless you, you have been chosen. Pd for by the FRCAction & by concerned citizens for the preservation of marriage, signed by everyone from Falwell to Graham.

So much for separation of church and state.

[soup]

1. Link to view ad

The legislative action arm of the Family Research Council-
They call themselves a movement for family, faith, and freedom.
http://www.frcaction.org/

list of participating groups-
http://www.frc.org/formarriage.cfm?aplc=04MARA

[Neecy]

15. FRC

The Family Research Council is little more than a hate group. It make me ill to see CNN, MSNBC et al trot out somebody from the FRC to spew hatred every time a gay issue is in the news, and allow them to portray themselves as some kind of experts on homosexuality.

It's like having a Klan member commenting on African-American issues, or a skinhead commenting on Jewish issues. THAT is just how offensive these hatemongers from the FRC are to gays and lesbians, but I suppose we aren't accorded the same dignity as other groups receive. I've heard these FRC people say absolutely horrible things, total falsehoods and hysterical scare tactics. It's hate speech, nothing more. Yet you can be sure that the cable networks give them a huge amount of face time. It's disgusting.

[Nobody]

2. Perfect opportunity to rebut this

By saying that FRCAction doesn't speak for you and that bigotry and intolerance are not the family values you want to promote.

[PsN2Wind]

3. Tell them you would like to further their goals of the

preservation of marriage by suggesting that churches expel from their congregation anyone that is divorced. Interesting op-ed piece in the local news pointed out that the states leading in the number of divorces, after Nevada were Tennessee, Arkansas and Alabama, all in the "bible belt". And that Baptists have the highest divorce rate of any Christian denomination and are more likely to get a divorce than atheists or agnostics. This from a 1999 AP report.

[OneTwentyoNine]

13. Tell them you know of two gay Priests that demand to be married..

And they both have brothers who are pedophile Priests that want to serve as best man.

That should keep them busy for awhile....


David

[jimshoes]

4. Also ran in the Cleveland Plain Dealer

Page A-17, full page advertisement. Their website says it is part of a $2 Million campaign...
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"This campaign is just the beginning of a nation-wide effort to build on the solid support of Americans who want marriage protected - 65 percent in the latest polls - so that the federal marriage amendment can be quickly passed in the U.S. Congress and ratified in the states."

[Eric J in MN]

6. Maybe 65% of people say they don't support gay-marriage, but

Maybe 65% of people say they don't support gay-marriage, but fewer actually want to change the U.S. Constitution.

[jimshoes]

11. Personally, I dont trust

their numbers any more than I trust anything that comes from a right wing organization. The FRC (Family Research Council) website does not say what poll they got their numbers from (not surprising) I suspect they just make shit up to make themselves look impressive. Wonder where they got the $2 mill for the ad campaign?

[neebob]

14. I don't doubt that 65% are unthinking assheads

who believe everything they're told and never question anything they were taught as children and couldn't care less about things they don't perceive as affecting them personally.

[rasputin1952]

7. Question...

if the divorce rate hovers around 50% every year, just who are these that comprise the 65%? How can one support something that they don't practice?

Just seems a little hypocritical to me.

O8)

[neebob]

10. I have yet to hear an argument

that states one specific thing that marriage needs to be protected from, one specific reason same-sex couples shouldn't be able to get married - only the ridiculous and vague slippery-slope argument. I'm beginning to think the rest of us need to be protected from people who think being married makes them special. Talk about a slippery slope! What's next? Single parents think about it.

[neebob]

5. That's truly sickening.

Just when I thought I couldn't be any more deeply disturbed by this creep's continued presence in the White House, he comes out in support of the marriage amendment. I'm with Al Sharpton - let's have an amendment against presidents who lie. But I'd make it against presidents who are just scumbags in general.

[mac2]

33. Yes.. It's a political ploy to take the heat off of Bush......

failures. It also divides us so we can't put them out of power.

[neebob]

35. Right, and then I find out

the coup in Haiti is also a BFEE enterprise, in the name of "Democracy Enhancement." Why that didn't occur to me before, I don't know - I guess I'm slow lately. The more I start to feel optimistic that the Evil War Chimp and his keepers are on their way down, the more I realize they'll do anything to stay in power. How it pains me they're not in prison.

[humble truth]

8. The one good thing about something like this

is their views are well documented. Can you imagine future generations looking back at an advertisement thanking the president for proposing to "deface the constitution with its first discriminatory amendment?"*


* Thanks to Bob Herbert for the defacing remark.

[xchrom]

9. charming -- get your waders on folks

it's gonna get deep out there.

[SoCalDem]

12. I guess they will accept money for ANY ads..

Does moveon.org know?? Might be an interesting "test case"

[ms_splash]

16. Could this cause a backlash?

Maybe some clear-thinking republicans (or at least clearer thinking) might see this and not want to lay down with dogs.

I think the "you have been chosen" and the signature from falwell may do it.

Probably not, but one could only hope.

[Rockholm]

30. Yes to a Backlash!

[lpbk2713]

17. God DAMN Bush

He has ruined my country.

[evil_orange_cat]

18. they are all hate-mongering bigotted fascists..

they are even using the same thought processes the nazis used... they are blaming gays for hurting the "sanctity of marriage", just like the Nazis blamed the Jews for Germany's woes.

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

19. Who all signed it?

That would be interesting.

[jimshoes]

20. For what it's worth

Here are the signatories from the ad. (There might be dupes or omissions)
Gary Palmer, Alabama Policy Institute
Keith WiebeAmerican Association of Christian Schools
Bay Buchanan The American Cause
Micah Clark American Family Association of Indiana
Gary Glenn American Family Association of Michigan
Gary Bauer American Values
Jerry Cox Arkansas Family Council
Dale S. Burroughs, Ph.D, Biblical Heritage Institute
Franklin Graham Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, Samaritan’s Purse
Richard Bott II Bott Radio Network
Steve Baldwin CNP Action Inc.
Ron Prentice California Family Council
Len Munsil Center for Arizona Policy
Michael S. Heath Christian Civic League – Maine
Roberta Combs Christian Coalition of America
James C. Lafferty Christian Seniors Association
Jack Stone Church of the Nazarene
Jack R. Smith Church of God (Holiness)
Phil Burress Citizens for Community Values – Ohio
D. James Kennedy, Ph.D, Coral Ridge Ministries Media, Inc. – Florida
Karen Testerman Cornerstone Policy Research – New Hampshire
Rev. M. Donald Duncan International Pentecostal Holiness Church & World Missions Ministries
Bishop James D. Leggett International Pentecostal Holiness Church
Chuck Hurley Iowa Family Policy Center, Iowa Liberty & Justice Center
Matthew D. Staver Liberty Counsel
Jerry Falwell Liberty University
James T. Draper Lifeway Christian Resources Southern Baptist Convention
Gene Mills Louisiana Family Forum
Ron Crews, D. Min. Massachusetts Family Institute
Brad Snavely Michigan Family Forum
R. Philip Roberts Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary
Tom Prichard Minnesota Family Council
Bill Hossler Missionary Church, Inc.
Forest Thigpen Mississippi Center for Public Policy
Jeff Laszloffy Montana Family Foundation
Joseph M. Stowell, DD, Moody Bible Institute
Pastor Ted A. Haggard National Association of Evangelicals
Len Deo New Jersey Family Policy Council
Steven J. Kidder, Ph.D. New York Family Policy Council
Rick Schatz National Coalition for the Protection of Children & Families
Deal Hudson Crisis Magazine
William J. Hamel Evangelical Free Church of America
Michael J. Glodo Evangelical Presbyterian Church
Alan Chambers Exodus International
Janet Folger Faith2Action
Dave Bydalek Family First – Nebraska
Kent Ostrander Family Foundation of Kentucky
Frank Wright National Religious Broadcasters
Bill Brooks North Carolina Family Policy Council
Christina Kindel North Dakota Family Alliance
Mike Jestes Oklahoma Family Policy Council
Michael Novak Author On Two Wings & Faith, Common Sense at the American Founding
Curt Smith Indiana Family Institute
Ron Shuping Inspiration Networks
Paul Risser International Church of the Foursquare Gospel
Joel Belz WORLD Magazine
Joseph Tkach Worldwide Church of God
James C. Dobson Focus on the Family
Paul Weyrich Free Congress
Thomas E. Trask General Council of the Assemblies of God
Randy Hicks Georgia Family Council
William O. Crews Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary
Peter LaBarbera Illinois Family Institute
Jack Graham Southern Baptist Convention
Richard Land Southern Baptist Convention Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission
Robert Reccord Southern Baptist Convention North American Mission Board
Andrea S. Lafferty Traditional Values Coalition
Rev. Louis P. Sheldon Traditional Values Coalition
John Whitlock Family Foundation of Virginia
Brian S. Brown Family Institute of Conneticut
Dennis Rainey Family Life
Tony Perkins President Family Research Council
Connie Mackey VP Governmental Affairs Family Research Council
Julaine K. Appling Family Research Institute of Wisconsin
John T. Stemberger Florida Family Policy Council
Kelly Shackelford Free Market Foundation Texas
Charles W. Colson Prison Fellowship Ministries
Peggy S. Birchfield Religious Freedom Coalition
William J. Murray Religious Freedom Coalition
Jim Chapman Rocky Mountain Family Council – Colorado
Stuart Epperson Salem Communications Corp.
Robert Regier South Dakota Family Policy Council
Daniel L. Akin Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary
R. Albert Mohler, Jr. Southern Baptist Theological Seminary

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

22. The usual suspects

I was hoping to see some political figures.

[ironflange]

23. Nothing but holy rollers

As usual, posturing themselves as representating the entire population.

[LiberalFighter]

26. Every damn one of them religious right and/or nut right

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

36. yeah, I was suprised.

I would have expected more "movement conservatives" on that list, llke Grover Norquist & such.

[slater71]

21. In the Orlando Sentel also.

[dawn]

24. Yeah, in the LA Times, of all places.

At first, I thought it was a joke.

:puke:

[mac2]

32. Not a surprise..the LA Times is owned by the Chicago Tribune..

long known to be a NAZI paper in a Democratic town. I refuse to subscribe. They (Neo Cons) bought up the LA Times and the NY Times to silence the liberal press.

RW Media control over too many major papers.

[never cry wolf]

25. It was in the Chicago Tribune

Back page of the op-ed section.

:puke:

[jackstraw45]

27. I thought the ad was free toilet paper...

whoops! :)

[leftbend]

28. It was in the USA Today

Full page middle of the paper. Who is paying for all these ads?

[mac2]

34. Carl Rove..campaign to elect Bush...

This is why they had to steal so much. They have huge expenses paying off people to lie for them.

[Rockholm]

29. It Was In The Boston Globe......

Thankfully, the Globe did some very nice placement of this horrifying advertisement. It was located on Page A15. There was an article on Page A13 where the "Pope Decries Gay Marriages" with the subtitle "Degrading Unions should halt." If one read the article, it is so damning of gay relationships as well as any non-traditional relationship where there is not a father and mother present (or as the pope calls it, "authentic"). Wow, thank you Pope. While you are at it, why don't you do something about your pedophile priests? What a freaking hypocrite. AARRGGHH.

[mac2]

31. Religious tyranny is alive and well in America.....

Most of these groups are on CSPAN. The audience are mostly reporters, etc. I don't think they have membership. Only RW thug political action dolls.

There is a religious war going on inside and from the outside of our country. They're after our tax money and control over our lives. It's about control because, they lack it. They are the modern day facists.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

37. Dear God

Dear God,

Please make me ever-watchful. Please give me the ability to see when anything in my life is even remotely connected to or benefits from any group who uses Christianity to promote hate and exclusion.

Please protect my family from people who believe our country is one based on the laws in the Bible. As You know, America is a secular society in which we are free to choose our religious beliefs, or not, as the case may be. Since You gave us free will, I am going to dare to think You would like that. But there are many in this country who promote hate in Your name. Please keep us from them now.

Thank you.