Na, there is no Global Warming? "3rd warmest December-February on record."

[fearnobush]

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Globe:
The average global temperature for combined land and ocean surfaces during the December 2003 to February 2004 period (based on preliminary data) was 1.0 degree F (0.6 degrees C) above the 1880-2003 long-term mean, the 3rd warmest December-February on record. The only warmer such three-month period (since reliable instrumental records began in 1880) occurred in 1997-98 and 2001-02. Data collected by NOAA polar orbiting satellites and analyzed for NOAA by the University of Alabama in Huntsville and Remote Sensing Systems in Santa Rosa, Calif., also indicate that temperatures in both the lower and middle troposphere (from the surface to approximately 6 miles above the surface) were warmer than average.

Since 1900, annual global surface temperatures have risen at a rate of 1.0 degree F (0.6 degrees C)/century, with some of the largest increases in the higher latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere. The boreal winter temperature was more than 5 degrees F (3 degrees C) above average throughout much of western and central Asia, as well as parts of Canada. Much of Europe and southern Australia also were warmer than average. Below-average temperatures occurred in northern Australia, where three tropical cyclones made landfall during the austral summer season.

The global ocean surface temperature was the second warmest on record for the three-month period, and temperatures in much of the eastern equatorial Pacific were near average at the end of February as the neutral phase of ENSO (El Niño/Southern Oscillation) continued.
<http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2189.htm>

[leftistagitator]

1. I sure hope I'm dead before we cause the new ice age

I know most have seen this already, but it merits reposting for the few that haven't. And I was hoping to move to Canada one day ;(.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1083419,00.html

[tkmorris]

2. To be fair

Even when you speak of an entire season you are really talking about "weather", not "climate". Global warming is a change in climate taking several years to be established as a trend.

Even so, the evidence that global warming is actually occuring and even accelerating is pretty well established. I just want you to be ready for what you will hear as rebuttal when you use a single season as evidence.

[Name removed]

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[fearnobush]

4. Sad to see so many people willing to walk themselves

in to the gas chambers of denial. Then again, thats what you people are all about. No change, no progress, no growth. Just perpetual status quo.

[Piperay]

7. What else could you expect from

someone who calls themself 'bushin2004 and as a sig line that says to vote republican?

[tkmorris]

5. No there aren't

The only scientists still "out" on global warming are exactly the same kind of gun-for-hire experts that will for a fee testify to whatever the attorneys who hire them ask them to. It isn't science, their profession is far older than that and usually practiced by scantily clad women on dirty street corners.

*On edit* I just noticed your screen name. I shoulda known........

[tkmorris]

10. LOL you're a funny guy

You actually went to the trouble to remove your sig? Why? Don't you think your chosen screen-name makes that a bit, well......moot?

I urge you to hang around awhile, even though you are sure to be banned soon. You will find the level of discourse here is rather enlightening, and a bit more challenging than you are used to. Trust me it's ok, no one here will bite you. Just read, and see if you don't learn a bit. Thinking that you know everything there is to know is for young teenagers and devout Republicans; we know better. Live and learn, a little each day. You'll feel better and eventually you will acquire enough knowledge to deserve that condescending attitude. Though you will likely also find you lack the desire to condescend. It goes with wisdom.

[fearnobush]

6. waht da...

I think you are taking the post way out of context. Since when is "global" not "climate" and "the 3rd warmest December-February on record" not part of a collection of data spanning from 1881 to present only "weather"? Please enlighten me.

[tkmorris]

8. Relax man

Don't go looking for an argument. I agree with him, and you.

The trouble is that one season of data is not a body of evidence dating back to 1881. It is one season. Nor do the global data show a uniform pattern, merely most of the globe. Thus what he is QUOTING is weather.

Now if you study the data he paraphrases from, and incorporate it into the pattern of data which DOES date back to 1881 here in the US, it does in fact clearly demonstrate a pattern of global warming. I am not arguing that he is wrong, merely that in only posting a few months of data he leaves himself open to attack since a few months BY THEMSELVES don't prove anything.

If you really want an argument go chat with the guy a couple posts up, whose signature urges you to "Vote Republican". There's your enemy mate, not me.

[gator_in_Ontario]

9. One questions one comment

1) How flippin' stupid are the freeper trolls getting? First there is the name. *ding* *ding* Don't they know this place never sleeps? One can get tombstoned between 4:30 and 6:00 am on a Sunday morning??
Can you just see this guy..."Sorry daddy, I got thrown off". Jeeeeeeezuuuus.

I am from florida, and have spent this winter in Canada. It was a very mild winter where I am, no snow even at Christmas.