Polling fraud is a required prerequisite for BBV voting fraud...

[TruthIsAll]

This is an important topic which has not been addressed, although I have posted another thread on it today.

Polling fraud is a required prerequisite for voting fraud. If Bush polling numbers fall too low (say 44% job approval), Diebold could not steal it for him. It would be too obvious. That's why exit polls were not published in the 2002 elections; they were at variance with the fraudulent Diebold touch-screen voting numbers.

Manipulating polling numbers is easily accomplished. Just bias the polling random sample of 1000 respondents by a slight adjustment to increase the number of phone calls to Bush-leaning districts. Another way would be to sample in more heavily-weighted Repub precincts.

Lets see how this could be done.

Assume 1000 people are polled throughout the nation. In a fair, unbiased sample, assume Bush would get 45% approval, or 450 (+/- 3% MOE). This is too low by 3%. The solution is to sample more aggressively in Repub strongholds to get 30 pro-Bush respondents. This will get him 480 (48%), a number close enough for Diebold to steal without raising eyebrows..

As Bush numbers have been a steady drip-drip since 9/11, he is now at the Mendoza line of 48% approval. The time to stop the bleeding is NOW, otherwise he will continue to free-fall to 40%.

Is this just conspiratorial rumination on my part?

Then ask yourself the following:
What good is Diebold if Bush is so far behind in the polls?
Did Bush steal the election in 2000?
Did he steal the Senate in 2002?
Did Bush lie about $150 billion in medicare costs?
Did he lie about going to war?
Is he stonewalling the 9/11 commission?
Has the media been giving him a free ride?
Are the pollsters working for Fox, Cnn, NBC, AP, CSM, Time, etc?
Are these media giants pro-Bush?

Yes to all the above.

Remember. Bush cannot win a fair election.

[Joanne98]

1. The press needs to be accused of this everyday

Just to let them know, we know what they're doing.

[Andy_Stephenson]

2. Right on target with this...

The polls have to be in a range. However the 2002 election was an example of "who cares wht the polls said" Even Zogby was suprised.

[whistle]

3. Great explanation...

...In the age of Internet, polling samples are undoubtedly obsolete. Why rely on a sample of 1,000 interviews which are always subject to errors of 3%+/-, whether bias is introduced or not. Better indicators are the timed polls by invitation like DU'rs are frequently asked to slam. Give me 25 or 30 of these types of polls with responses of 20,000 or 50,000 or even 100,000 or more each and I don't care how you average those, they will strong indications of trends all along the way right up to election day.

Even on election day and the media know this, local media could ask their audiences to sign-on their websites and in secret ballot, monitored by an independent research firm, could ask who they cast their vote for and I would bet that would show up fraud. The election as it now stands unchecked and unmonitored predictably will be the biggest fraud this country has ever known. If the media has any integrity and guts left, they will do what is necessary starting now to expose the deceit and give the American people a legitimate president this November.

[tobius]

4. the amount of people involved in all these conspiracy theories continues

to grow. I'm very impressed by the discipline involved to keep all these schemes going without a major leak or whistleblower, really is quite an accomplishment.

[Andy_Stephenson]

6. Ummm in case you haven't been paying attention

Diebold was not a conspiracy theory it is fact...nor is the fact VNS shut down and closed up shop halfway through election day 2002. Do you dispute those facts?

[tobius]

7. i'm saying that the level of coordination from this

administration is staggering. quite preternatural.

[TruthIsAll]

8. There are some demons working under Rove who fan out

in some manner to manipulate the media. Put nothing past these guys. Pure evil. Truth is their enemy. Lies are their God.

To keep Americans ignorant is their goal. History is only something to rewrite, not to learn from. They have relished secrecy, but they have become so desperate, so arrogant and blatant they now lie about everything from the get-go.

They feel they can win by inundating us (and congress) with lies and scandals and coverups. Non-stop. They will demoralize us. Defeat us by sheer exhaustion.

Try to uncover one of their offenses, they will just hit you with another.

They are doing exactly what Goebbels said they had to do.

[Mel]

5. corporatista media

is about 'making money' and I don't believe the country is the 50/50 split (if the truth was reported we are more shades of gray than the black and white brush they paint we the people with) Oh my this election is going to be ever sooo close the media keeps yapping over and over insert talking heads on every channel. When it comes to how 'close' the election is going to be I think it's a lie!
Hell the corporatista media makes it up, lies, distorts, and raah! rahhs! {shark attack! shark attack!}Why should I believe them when they tell me the 2004 election is going to be close?

More Viewers=Money

Republican Pres.=less regulation on the corporatistas that control the media

Why should it be allowed to be framed as a conspiracy to look at it, it's obvious that it's about busine$$.
I ask the ones who want to throw the conspiracy talking point out there with such ease which btw is a nice little tool they like to pull out to poo poo what they don't want to discuss.
What's conspiratorial about business? Nothing.
What's wrong with looking at the corporatista media and asking if they have an agenda when it comes to who wins elections? Example their lack of coverage leading up to the de-regulation by Powell, giving the corporatista media more control of the publics airwaves.
Sorry, but for me calling it a conspiracy is wrong-headed. Nope, won't work and as they say in the South that there dog won't hunt!

I personally think Bush* is toast! Granted, I could be wrong but I don't think so and your right that's where the cheating with the diebold machines plays into this. Question, What about Exit Polls in 2004? Are we going to have Exit Polls ever again?
If not, I think what your getting at is very likely! Another stolen election!

I don't believe Senator Max Cleland lost in 02' and one of the states I think there's going to be some hankie pankie in 2004 is Ohio.

[Pobeka]

9. YES YES YES.

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