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worldgonekrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:01 PM
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We have a friend in CNN
Yeah, yeah, I know, they are still corporate media and all that. But hear me out.

I believe their plan to overtake Fox News and return to prominence is to be on the forefront in the whole "Bush Knew" 9/11 Commission story. They know that Fox won't touch this with a ten foot pole until they have to, so I think they are positioning themselves to be THE station to turn to for information when this story really blows up.

Evidence? They showed the entirety of both days of public testimony, without commerical interruptions. No other news network did this, as far as I am aware of, and Fox News tried to pretend like it didn't even exist.

Essentially, I think CNN wants to make this story their next Gulf War, which (for those who don't know) catapulted CNN to prominence in the first place. They need another such event where they can be in the forefront, and this story is shaping up to be just that. Its all about business, but in this case the implications are good for us and good for the truth.

Am I crazy? Disillusioned? Hopelessly optimistic?
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:03 PM
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1. I think CNN was created after Watergate
we were so used to 'all news, all the time'
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markdd Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:08 PM
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8. Mad Prophet of the Airwaves
No I think Ted Turner (Mad Prophet) came up with the idea in the late '80's, early '90's to go along with his other cable channels. Gulf War I simply made it famous. Certainly not as old as Watergate.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:22 PM
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19. That's when I remember first seeing CNN expecially during
the first Iraq war.
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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:47 PM
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22. CNN debuted in 1980
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:04 PM
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2. Hopelessly optimistic. But I hope you're right
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:04 PM
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3. interesting theory (eom)
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:04 PM
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4. MSNBC showed the hearings too n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:05 PM
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5. I hope they succeed
Fox News needs to be taken down a peg or 2, or 3 or 4. :D As Jon Stewart said: "I love Fox News, every country should have their own Al Jazeera!"
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:07 PM
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6. With Wolfie and Candy and Paula and Novak and Schnieder
still shilling for the Bushies I think maybe too optimistic. I hope you are right of course but these people seem willing to overlook anything they do and treat whatever the Dems say as 'just politics' not truth.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:11 PM
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11. Please add Judy Woodruff to that list. She is a shill of the 1st Order.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:47 PM
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23. Don't forget Judy "Panties Down for Bush" Woodruff
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:55 PM
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24. LOL, Mary Pat!

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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:58 PM
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25. heh - with friends like "Panties" Woodruff, who needs enemies?
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:19 PM
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26. Name me ONE credible suit or skirt at CNN
They are all babble fish -- aiding and abetting the flying monkeys.
Not once in the past 7 days did they speak to the issues raised by Richard Clarke -- one of the last strands of DNA capable and willing to tell the truth. Instead they used their time and power to perpetuate the lies.

If it wasn't for Chris Mathews' upcoming interview with Clarke tomorrow, I would pull the plug on my cable subscription now.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:24 PM
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27. only one...
And I don't entirely trust him, but Lou Dobbs is at least addressing some of the more glaring failures of the Bush* administration, and he doesn't appear to be an apologist.

The rest of 'em...hell, look at the lineup. Those two fluffbunnies in the morning, followed by Daryn Kagan (she might qualify, but she lets huge Rethug whoppers whiz on by too often), those IDIOTS in the afternoon who don't have a brain between them so they struggle to be 'personalities', Woodruff, Blitzer, that oh-so-edgy Cooper, Zahn, King, Brown...it's like a Who's Who of drunken pirates.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:29 PM
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28. I'll give you Dobbs ...
and I respect his steady focus on jobs and the economy. He does come to the table well prepared in most cases.
But Daryn ... NOT ... she's a Stepford Wife.
You have a breach in your shield Neecy :)
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:08 PM
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7. On the morning of Clarke's testimony, Faux's "BIG STORY" was....
.....you guessed it:

MICHAEL JACKSON!!!!!

Fox :puke:
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:09 PM
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9. hopelessly optimistic
I honestly don't think that CNN cares that they can't compete with FAUX for conservative viewers, and this is really the key to understanding them.

It's all about furthering the corporate interests of AOL/TW. The Schneiders, Crowleys, Woodruffs, Blizters et al are nothing more than cutouts for continuing GOP rule in this country. They don't care about ratings or journalism, they care about their corporate profits. If they did care about ratings or journalism, you'd NEVER see a Bill Schneider masquerading as a neutral political analyst.

For God's sake, this is the network that continues to employ Bob Novak, even after committing treason by outing a CIA agent!

They'll whitewash this, and the inevitable further Bush* scandals. Mark my words.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:09 PM
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10. Oh really! Read this.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:27 PM
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20. Oh my!
I'm glad I missed that, too. I'd rather suffer through the People's Court than watch Wolfie, but behavior like that is entirely predictable from him.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:12 PM
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12. CNN is part of a PSYOPS campaign......
.....you can read all about it in this thread! :evilgrin: P.S., No :tinfoilhat: needed! :)
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:12 PM
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13. Sorry dude.........
you're dreamin'.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:13 PM
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14. Nice imagination you've got there.
Yes, you're crazy--and disillusioned--and hopelessly optimistic.

All you have to do is sit down and watch CNN. Read some of the latest threads about Bill Schneider. CNN is absolutely appalling.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:15 PM
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15. The 9-11 commission is a scam...
...so why would showing it mean anything other than participating in the facade?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:18 PM
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16. Piffle.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:21 PM
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18. dreaming and delusional
Look, I'm just as exasperated as all of you here with the current state of affairs. The only glimmer of hope I find is whenever I'm extremely annoyed with the cabal of neocons who have overtaken the executive, legislative, judicial branches of government as well as the media. . .I visualize John Kerry taking the oath of office on the steps of our Capital. Maybe we could share the same dream
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:20 PM
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17. " No other news network did this" - umm yup they did - CBC
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 02:21 PM by ConcernedCanuk
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Right, I know, that's up here in Canukville, but they even covered the short spots that CNN jumped in with something else now and then.

And

CNN just pissed me off by cutting of Kerry's(live) speech in CA to talk about some trial, Liberty Lady, and other stuff that could have waited . .

:mad:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 02:44 PM
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21. You certainly aren't crazy, your username attests to that fact.
CNN is worldwide, like BBC, AP and Reuters The answers to the unanswered questions we all have (and remedy to the nameless fears being circulated in this Crusade of George W. Bush et al) are scattered over the world.

Everyday individuals that have had serious doubts about the real agenda of the neo-conservative traitors are shedding light into the shadow government's treasonous lies.

The truth is coming out piecemeal, drip, drip, drip. It needs to be broadcast here and CNN could well be part of that. How it will be presented, and by whom, is being worked out.

There has been a coup, of sorts, the unthinkable has happened in the United States of America and our rallying point is OUR Constitution-which is US--not conformity to authority that has been stolen, nor adherence to PATRIOT ACT and similar "law".

That is just my opinion, of course. I've held it since 12-12-2000.
I would take accusations of being nuts in stride- because each news cycle contains more confirmation and support of my (and others) beliefs that the once unthinkable has happened since the George W. Bush administration was installed.

Occam's razor, and all that...

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