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Wed Mar-31-04 08:33 PM
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Nader called Clinton a draft dodger on the Randi Rhoades show. |
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What more proof do we need that Ralph is a Republican operative? Why didn't he call bush a draft dodger? Answer: Because he is a Republican operative. Forget trying to appease him and his "people". They need to be run against just as we run against the Republicans.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:34 PM
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1. Shut up Chicken Hawk Ralph! |
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Hmmmm, wasn't Ralph a Chicken Hawk too??????????
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:36 PM
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4. Doesn't "hawk" require being pro war? |
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:36 PM
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5. He came off real bad on her show. |
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He is a tool for the right wing. He showed himself to be an inept tool for the right wing. Further, the way he treated Randi showed that he hates women.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:36 PM
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6. nader is anti-war. so how could he be a chicken-hawk? |
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:38 PM
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9. If he's anti-war then why call Clinton a draft dodger? |
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I think the logic on this goes both ways. I don't know many anti-war activists that would call a person who evaded an unjust war a draft dodger.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:42 PM
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but what's that got to do with calling ralph a chicken hawk? don't recall him pushing the iraq invasion.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:20 PM
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36. But I haven't heard him say much against the Iraq war? |
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I mean, complain about the Republicans...never really heard him do that...
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:31 PM
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40. cause you ain't listening. |
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:46 PM
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How about chicken sh*t...noted mainly by the stench that follows him around...never realized ego smelled like that until Ralphie trotted his teensy weenie self back along the "campaign" trail.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:35 PM
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:35 PM
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3. Message to Ralph: breathe deeply and think rationally |
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He is really making an ass of himself on air.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:36 PM
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7. How old is he? Which conflict did he fight in? |
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:37 PM
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Ralph is not a pub operative. He is trying to get the Dems to REALLY come back left. The problem is CORPORATIONS have bought our government. http://gnn.tv/countdownWatch it and learn about Ralph
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:39 PM
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Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 08:41 PM by Liberal_Guerilla
I don't care what little video you got there. The proof is in the out come of his actions. The proof is in how he just dis-respected Randi Rhoades, and refused to answer her questions. If he really wanted to be an influence in democratic politics then why wasn't he debating in the Dem primaries like Kucinich, Braun and Sharpton?
If he ain't a pub operative, then he is an ego driven nut ball.
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Wed Mar-31-04 10:02 PM
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42. He might be a nut ball... |
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but he is a real progressive nut ball. Watch the movie or stfu.
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Wed Mar-31-04 11:12 PM
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And a corporate tit-sucker.
Google and see just how much coporate money he's earned in the past few years.
He's just shilling his shit to what he hopes is a more gullible crowd.
I'm not biting, and I didn't in 2000.
Ralph Nader can kiss my ass.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:39 PM
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11. don't go spoiling the '2 minute hate' |
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the proles want their Victory Gin ration, dammit!
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:45 PM
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20. Well...it keeps the blind faithful... |
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...from actually questioning the direction of the Democratic party. Hate Nader and ignore that the Dem party is becoming more 'conservative' with each election cycle. Pretty soon you'll be able to vote Democrat and Republican at the same time.
- The problem lies with a corrupt government and media selling US out to corporations while backing the creation of a one party state.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:51 PM
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Gee, do I hear an echo?
Wasn't it the old, "there's no difference between D's & R's," Ralphie's rationale (assuming Ralphie has any rational thoughts) in 2000?
We all know what that got us don't we?
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Wed Mar-31-04 10:04 PM
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43. Blaming Ralph for Bush being in office... |
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Is like blaming Kato Kalin for OJ killing Nichole.
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Wed Mar-31-04 10:56 PM
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and we got shrub...and yes, I blame Ralphie...he's an egocentric jerk with delusions of grandeur. And I'm entitled to my opinion...one that is shared by many.
For those who don't share that opinion...that is also their right.
Ralphie thinks he's a king maker...all hail his most recent product of madness...G.W. Bushytushy.
Thanks but no thanks.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:41 PM
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13. Amazing how we don't hear from him... |
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on the subjects he says he cares about between election seasons.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:43 PM
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17. Where has he been the past 3+ years that we have had to endure Bush? |
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Nowhere!! he only comes out to bash Dems when it is convenient for the republicans. Fuck Ralph.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:53 PM
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28. Quite an insightful point. |
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I guess his outrage comes every 4 years.
Ralph is against corporations, but as far as I know he hasn't given his portfolio dividends to charity. And just what is Ralph saying he would do to combat the evil of corporations? Make them illegal?
He is using corporations as some kind of tactical wedge to lump democrats and republicans as "pro-corporation"....in 2000, it was the "dems are no different from the repubs". In 2004 it's, "dems and repubs are bought by corporations". New meme, same bullshit.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:40 PM
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12. Ralph Nader is a veteran |
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Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 08:43 PM by messiah
Oops...........
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:42 PM
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15. That can't be. He was born in 1934. |
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Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 08:43 PM by NightTrain
That would've made Nader 11 years old when WW2 ended in 1945.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:48 PM
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22. Korea was from 1950-53. He may have been. |
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He was 18 in 52 and the war was in full court press then.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:57 PM
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30. I think he served in a infantry unit. |
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:08 PM
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He was in college until 1958. Not a single online biography mentions any military service.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:13 PM
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35. Guess your right but I'm still investigating......... |
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I did hear somewhere that he served in some war.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:12 PM
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34. Ralph is NOT a veteran... not of Korea.... |
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Ralph Nader was born in Winsted, Connecticut to Nathra and Rose Nader, Lebanese immigrants who operated a restaurant and bakery. Nader's dream of becoming a "people's lawyer" was instilled in him in adolescence by his parents, who in noisy free-for-alls, conducted family seminars on the duties of citizenship in a democracy. Mark Green, a former Nader associate, said that "When (the Naders) sat around the table growing up it was like the Kennedys. Except that the subject was not power but justice."
Following his graduation in 1951 from Gilbert School, Nader entered the Woodrow Wilson School of International Affairs at Princeton University. Graduating magna cum laude in 1955, with a major in government and economics, Nader enrolled in Harvard Law School. He became an editor of the Harvard Law Review, and after graduating with honors, set up a small legal practice and traveled widely.
CHeck the dats....
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:41 PM
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14. Let Ralph rant and rave |
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He'll become irrelevant anyway. He's too liberal for the neocons, and he's too "you're all the same" for liberals.
I heard this this afternoon, his visit is about to get a whole lot uglier. He didn't do himself any favors here.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:44 PM
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and I wondered what was the motivation.
It was not necessary to the issue at hand.
Rhodes let it go by
But, it showed his true feelings.
We do not need people like this "has been" appearing on liberal talk radio for the purpose of bashing liberals .
Nader is out to bash the Democrats and that I am sure of after this appearance on the Randi Rhodes show . He is trite, petulant, and unable to admit the truth, but prefers to uphold his delusions.
He is, in other words, an incompetant, and perhaps is suffering from some mental disease. He has no concern for this country--if he did, he would back down, simply to present a united front against the idiot Bush.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:50 PM
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I'm so proud of Randi saying to Ralph what needed to be said.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:46 PM
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21. Ralph smears Democrats constantly |
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And when Democrats stand up to him, they get attacked again by some within our own ranks.
And the republicans win and win and win...
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:50 PM
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24. Did It Ever Occur To Anyone That... |
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Ralph is beginning to realize that he has become obsolete in American politics and that by inserting himself into politics the way he has, it is the only way he can stay "relevant"?
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:51 PM
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That's why he left consumer advocacy a long time ago.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:52 PM
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27. doesn`t anyone remember |
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ralphie and his little love-fest with the republicans right after bush`s installation? that little dinner date he was invited to...
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:01 PM
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31. You mean the dinner with his tru love Phillys Schafly. |
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He was probably there to pick up his check and get a pat on the back.
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Wed Mar-31-04 08:55 PM
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29. Ralphie is an egomaniacal creep. |
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I actually hate him more than Bush. I never expected anything different from Bush.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:07 PM
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32. I do think it's telling that Ralph called Clinton a draft dodger. |
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Those are Republican talking points memos. All the more proof that he is a republican waterboy.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:23 PM
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Girls, who you gonna do? Wm. Jefferson or BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I cannot believe I'm even asking!!! The Dog is neither in office nor calling the shots. Getting off on it is a sign of dysfunction. :evilgrin:
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:24 PM
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for Ralph to side with the right. He also said Clinton deserved to be impeached. He's rightwing scum. I don't trust him or his motivations. You're right -- he is a right wing mole. He doesn't care about the future of his country. He also really wants to keep Bush's tax cuts in place for his personal financial gain.
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Wed Mar-31-04 09:25 PM
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and who fucking cares? Is being a draft dodger a bad thing. I'd sure as hell be one if I was alive during Vietnam, and I'd be one now if * reinstated the draft. I will never serve in the military, period, end of story.
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46. I'm Sure Another Check From Karl Rove Is Already In The Mail |
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