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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 12:47 AM
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Dominionists Introduce Bill to "Acknowledge" US Law Based on God's Law
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 12:55 AM by BurtWorm
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/ConstitutionRestorationAct.htm


Today the Yurica Report learned that on February 11 , 2004 Dominionist leaders in congress made their move; they introduced a bill in both houses called The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004. Among the sponsors of the bill are Rep. Robert Aderholt (Alabama), Rep. Michael Pence (Indiana), Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, Sen. Zell Miller (Georgia), Sen. Sam Brownback (Kansas), and Sen. Lindsey Graham (South Carolina).



The House version is H.R. 3799 and the Senate version is S. 2082. The bill limits the U.S. Supreme Court and federal courts to hear cases involving ?expressions of religious faith by elected or appointed officials.?



Although the claim by its sponsors appears to be that the intention is to prevent the courts from hearing cases involving the Ten Commandments or a Nativity Scene in a public setting from being reviewed, the law is drawn broadly and expressly includes the acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law by an official in his capacity of executing his office. John Giles, Alabama President of Christian Coalition said, "The greatest unbridled abuse by the federal judiciary for over forty years has been in the area of redefining the acknowledgement of God as the sovereign source of law...We define this as judicial activism, making law from the bench. These unconstitutional rulings have gone unchecked by other branches of government."



The following proposed law will be added to Sec. 1260 of Title 28, Chapter 81 of the U.S. Code:



?Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element?s or officer?s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.?


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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 12:53 AM
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1. And all Atheists shall wear a badge on their arm for identification
until we can develop a final solution of course.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 12:53 AM
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2. Amendment "all the nativity figures must be nude Janet Jackson"
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 12:55 AM by mouse7
Ten Commandment tablets must be held by nude Janet Jackson figures.

That will fix it.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:02 AM
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3. GAMPAC: Take Action against THE CONSTITUTION RESTORATION ACT OF 2004
http://www.godlessamericans.org/pacissuesbriefing.php

THE CONSTITUTION RESTORATION ACT OF 2004

(Details at Senate: thomas.loc.gov and House: thomas.loc.gov)

So, it's come to this. For 228 years, we have built and enjoyed a country whose laws are determined by the consent of the governed after throwing off the yoke of the 'divine right of kings' and declaring freedom of religion. Now, we have a bill in the U.S. Senate (S.2082) and an identical one in the House (H.R.3799) that proclaims that no federal court action can proceed against a government (federal, state or local) or official of government "?by reason of that element's or officer's acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government."

This must necessarily be interpreted as saying if a government or official of government does something they claim to be "God's law", the Supreme Court and federal courts have no jurisdiction. Far, far from separating church and state, this means that legislators and government officials can base their votes and decisions on tenets of their personal religious beliefs without fear of judicial interference. This opens the door to majority rule religion without the 'check and balance' of a Constitutional challenge under the principles of religious freedom. Ultimately, Congress could disenfranchise atheists, gays, even followers of other religions, based on the "god's law" of the god of the current majority. The bills also provide that if any Supreme Court or federal judge does claim jurisdiction over these matters, that judge can be removed from the bench.

These acts also would provide another toe hold for Christian theocrats in their campaign to define the United States as a Christian nation in direct contradiction of the 'no litmus test' clause and the First Amendment of the Constitution and of the Treaty of Tripoli.

There's another provision that is seemingly obvious but must be there for a purpose. Each act "Prohibits a court of the United States from relying upon any law, policy, or other action of a foreign state or international organization in interpreting and applying the Constitution, other than the constitutional law and English common law." This may be preparing the way for restricting federal judges from referring to or relying on any international law or ruling by the United Nations, for example. It is a bad idea for Congress to attempt to restrict the courts with respect to how they interpret the Constitution. An independent judiciary is a key element of our government and these bills are designed to encroach on that independence.

<Go to: SB 2082 - take action and HR 3799 - take action.>
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:03 AM
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4. and the woman (church) rides the beast (state) n/t
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:10 AM
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5. You see, the soviets...
got the whole religion thing right from the get go... It is inevitably a blight on the face of society. A social anachronism that should have been left for dead in the 1700s. I don't care which one you are talking about - the wall kissers, the hell fire fetishists or the mecca boys, it's all a same game, all the same bs.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:12 AM
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6. These fucking lunatics are worse than the Taliban
If they have their way, all abortion will be outlawed, gays will be imprisoned (or worse), and science will be crippled. We simply cannot let them win. If we can defeat Bush this year, the theocrats will never recover.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:14 AM
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8. The only thing that right wingers hate about the Taliban
is that they are Muslim.

But they admire everything else about them.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:13 AM
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7. NB: This bill comes courtesy of Roy Moore and the Alabama delegation
(from the Yurica report link in the first post of this thread)


New Dominionist Bill Limits the Supreme Court's Jurisdiction

The Constitution Restoration Act of 2004



This article omits one fact that should have been included: the bill was drafted by former Judge Roy Moore's lawyer, Herb Titus. Those who have read The Despoiling of America will know that Titus was the first Dean of Pat Robertson's School of Public Policy and is a known Dominionist who has advocated the abolition of the government's licensing powers. He has argued that government oversteps when it licenses lawyers, doctors, teachers, etc. Also, an earlier bill titled "Religious Liberties Restoration Act," S. 1558 dated July 21, 2003, specifically authorizes the display of the ten commandments and other religious references and exempts such items from judicial review by the U.S. Federal Courts. Our question is: What is actually intended by the Constitution Restoration Act of 2004?]
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 10:42 AM
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9. kick
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:13 AM
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10. Wow, that sank fast!
:kick:
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:17 AM
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11. Somebody needs to tell these nimrods
that they would need a constitutional amendment to change what the supreme court hears. Legislation can't do that.

American Taliban at work.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:22 AM
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12. I sincerely believe that these guys know damn well that their bill
is not just unconstitutional but anti-Constitution--anti-America, even. They are totally at the service of a theologically corrupt but powerful bloc in their state. It doesn't hurt them to say fuck the constitution; in fact, it benefits them politically. This is, I firmly believe, an ultimately cynical bill. Cynical and rotten to the core. And they shouldn't be allowed to get away with wasting one second of the Congress's time with this idiocy.
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:26 AM
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13. G-d told me to kill all the blacks...or jews...or gays...or hispanic...
Isnt there something called seperation of church and state? how can we not hold people responsible just because they say, "its the word of g-d?"

G-d told me to disenfranchise half the population and steal an election...and you cant do jack about it...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:32 AM
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16. That's what I'm saying. These guys know about the first amendment
the establishment clause, the separation of church and state--and if they don't know, they're idiots who shouldn't be allowed to make laws for the rest of us!

Welcome to DU, by the way! :toast:
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:27 AM
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14. freaky
I wish the media would cover this stuff. I don't think most Americans would be comfortable with this garbage being RAMMED down our throats.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:32 AM
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15. these fucking creeps HATE the court system
Only the court system has the power to enforce our rights, they fucking hate that - they want absolute power over us all.

Well bring it! I'll be ready. The consequences could be grave.

“Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element’s or officer’s acknowledgment of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.”

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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:36 AM
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17. "There's only one Judge, and only one Judgment Day.
Will YOU be ready?" :eyes:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:46 PM
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18. If Congress passed this bill, would the USSC be prohibited from
overturning it because it "acknowledges" that God's law is behind law, freedom and government? :crazy: :wtf:
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