LA Times poll - Clarke effect now hurting Bush,, Kerry leads 49-46

[59millionmorons]

Also leads 47-44 with Nader.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/la-na-poll1apr01,0,2064207.story?coll=la-news-politics-national

[0007]

1. Yahoo!

Thank for the link Dave.

[wicket]

2. Awesome!

Great news!!! :) :D

[wtf]

4. It's always cool when Kerry is up, but..

c'mon, these polls are beyond ridiculous by now, right?

[callous taoboy]

11. Hey,

I say if low poll numbers can give the prez the shits for a day, than polls are a good thing.:evilgrin:

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

3. Polls

:silly: can drive ya crazy

[59millionmorons]

5. Polls are Polls

The thing is it drives the news. People were freaking over the Gallup poll even though the same day Gallup released there poll, Rasmussen and Pew also put out there polls showing kerry ahead. I believe we now can affirm the Gallup poll was an outlier.

[calimary]

6. I am hopeful that the Richard Clarke effect hasn't quite yet taken hold.

That would explain the INEXPLICABLE bump bush got at the end of last week. I was also wondering whether people just heard this stuff and decided to cling, ever more desperately, to their denial. This is an AWFUL one to have to face. Especially for people who sincerely believed that everything was on the up-n-up. It's mighty hard to admit you were wrong. Look how few people are willing to come forward and do it. Consider: when Jay Rockefeller announces he voted wrong on the Iraq war and he regrets it, it's a news story all by itself. What does THAT tell ya? And look at the mileage Clarke got by admitting "your country failed you," and "I have failed you." Made huge headlines. It'll be a buzzphrase heard around the world.

I am hoping - no psychic here, and of course I can get pretty lost in the Wishful Thinking Department, but I'm hoping that people are reading the book and it's starting to make them think. TONS of people are buying this book. It's not all for book-burning, you know. And even if only a few read it and wake up, maybe that's all it takes. A few here, a few there. Then they talk to their friends. The so-called "watercooler talk" that programmers and audience research people and pundits put such value in - can be a major indicator of people's true views.

Besides, has anyone seen posts here (I have) or heard people talking, along the lines of: "I just can't believe the president would..." Well, that's often indicative of a change-of-heart in the making. It's a sign that they're actually entertaining such a thought, as horrifying as it may be to them. Once they open the mental doors and let this stuff in, I bet it'll sit for awhile and fester.

I was hoping that maybe there'd be a delayed reaction that was more realistic. Perhaps this is an indicator of it. Not only that, but there's MORE stuff coming out, seemingly every day, that pokes holes in what Clarke's critics are blathering. Like the front page of the Washington Post today, about the foreign policy/national security speech Contradicta was PLANNING to give - ON 9/11 - emphasizing NOT terrorism at all, but rather - Missile Defense:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40697-2004Mar31.html

The WASHINGTON POST on Thursday is planning an exclusive: On Sept. 11, 2001, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice was scheduled to outline a Bush administration policy that would address "the threats and problems of today and the day after, not the world of yesterday"

Revealed: The Condi Speech That Was Never Delivered on Sept 11


Oh, and one more thing...

NOTE MY SIG LINE! TODAY WOULD BE A VERY GOOD DAY TO FOLLOW UP...

[tandot]

7. I hope this is not an April's Fools joke by the LA times

to lead 3 points even with Nader in the picture is great news. And Clarke looks more and more credible, after distancing himself from the moveon.org ad and being unwavering in yesterday's interview with Tweety. He is trying hard not to look partisan, even saying some positive things about Condi, Cheney, and Bush. Some conservatives might take him more serious and consider voting for Kerry.

[BabsSong]

8. I learned a hidden stat that was in the Gallup poll that should clarify

things. (noticed one of you brought up the Gallup Poll). Later CNN showed that the Kerry Bush numbers that were just 1% apart had not moved one inch either way in the states where Bush isn't airing his ads. All the movement was in the 'ad' states and those states started with like a 7-8 point Kerry lead and then ended up with a 53-47 Bush lead in the new poll. Thus, none of this had to do with the Clarke factor or any of this 9/11 stuff. It was pure 'ads'. Thus, the Clarke factor is an underlying sleeping dog that will over time errode Bush--i.e, people start thinking about stuff like this when they see the charred bodies displayed on the front of their newspapers today (know what I mean?)

[59millionmorons]

9. Is that you Jeff Greenfield

This is exactly what he said on CNN the other day.

[CatWoman]

10. there's a story in LBN

that states Kerry's absences are doing him in.

Don't seem that way to me.

I'm glad Kerry is unavailable while * fends off the Clarke revelations.

[59millionmorons]

13. It is priceless

He just broke the campaingn $$ record for Dems. And gets to rest awhile.

[SideshowScott]

12. I knew it was a matter of time..You have to wait for the Bulls**t wave

to pass over from the spin of FOX news and Fox-Lite CNN ( i did not think CNN were whores till i watched Letterman last night )
I knew this was gonna hurt bush..You just had to wait for the whores to catch thire breath to find out the real truth

[59millionmorons]

14. It's a water cooler topic

drip drip drip

[BattyDem]

15. I say ...

Richard Clarke should be Kerry's running mate! :bounce: