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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:19 AM
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Woodward's New Book WH worried about - a Little More Info
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Next: Plan of Attack by Bob Woodward, the Watergate-era icon of The Washington Post. It's due to be excerpted in the Post on April 18. That night, Woodward will be on another member of the "old media" club — CBS' 60 Minutes, where Clarke also appeared.

It's being touted by the publisher, Simon & Schuster, as a "definitive ... behind-the-scenes" account of how the White House planned and managed the Iraq war. Two White House officials said they are concerned about the book, which they expect will reveal internal disagreements about the decision to go to war.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-03-31-political-books_x.htm
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:23 AM
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1. Powell Against Everyone Else?
At least in the Inner Circle?
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:25 AM
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2. I just don't get it
How many "insiders" need to keep coming out with the truth and how many more books need to be published about the corrupt nature of this WH before the American people get it?

My husband and I sit in awe that all of these negative books about the administration are out and all of these insiders have spoken out yet the idiot still maintains a 50% approval rating. I mean really, I know there are stupid people in this country but how much needs to be revealed before they get it?

You have O'Neil, Clarke, Wilson, Beers, and they are all telling the same story yet people just refuse to believe them.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:29 AM
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8. I'm not sure books really make that much difference
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 11:30 AM by lancdem
Remember, there were anti-Clinton books coming out every week, and the Big Dog's approval rating didn't suffer. The one difference might be that those books were by and large by RW hacks, and the anti-Bush books aren't by obvious partisans.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:25 AM
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3. And unlike Clarke Woodward isn't from WH
So they don't get to vet it before publication. That alone should be worrisome to these fascist bastards.

:toast:

Julie
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:25 AM
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4. One more Book to Buy
D@mn, I'm going to have to buy another book. This campaign is going to break me. :D
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:27 AM
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5. it would seem.....
that Woodward didn't use ALL of his notes from the writing of "Bush At War"...

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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:28 AM
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6. They seem immune from damage
Another person they will have to discredit and destroy

I don't think it will have the impact of the Clarke bombshell though, just my humble opinion.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:32 AM
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10. I don't think they're immune
Incumbent presidents shouldn't have this much trouble against a challenger with only a fraction of the money.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:28 AM
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7. Powell's revenge?
A poster wrote a while back that Powell is always Woodward's key source, and speculated that this book could be Powell's revenge.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:56 AM
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14. That's what I'm expecting (& hoping for!)
Personally not a huge Woodward fan (indeed somewhat wary) but he certainly has used Powell heavily as a source in "The Commanders" & "Bush at War". One can only hope that now Colin is willing to let rip against the neo-cons.
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webtrainer Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:49 PM
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18. Remember, Powell is quitting after the election . . .
and he hasn't been pulled into the "slam Clarke" whirlwind either, so he's not beyond parsing his statements in such a way that if you really read into them, you can see he's not in with the Rummy's and Wolfowitz's of the admin.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:16 PM
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21. If Powell could bring himself to quit being the "Loyal Soldier"
he could write one "helluva" book about the way this bunch just knee-capped him.

I used to admire him, but no longer.

The man could've been the first African-American (and please don't blast me for the hyphen) President or Vice-President of this country. If he'd have run, he'd have probably won in a landslide.

But now I'm glad we've gotten to see him for the butt-kisser he is. He lost his moral compass a long time ago.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:30 AM
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9. Somebody needs to tell these morons the war isn't over yet.
Quote:

It's being touted by the publisher, Simon & Schuster, as a
"definitive ... behind-the-scenes" account of how the White House
planned and managed the Iraq war.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:36 AM
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11. Rush Is already bashing Woodward
That just shows you how powerful a book against Bush this could be.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:41 AM
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12. Woodward is a Bush tool.
If they are bashing his book, it's because they want it to sell.
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:32 PM
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15. Yes, One Wonders...
Is it better to get attention focused on Woodward, because the blame may be diffused? Woodward may be more complementary? Look to Woodward for the "truth?" (And stop reading Clarke's book?)

Yes, it is cause to worry. They didn't pre-bash Clarke's book, did they? And they had it to vet?

Makes you wonder.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:38 PM
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25. you got that right....no prebash of Clarke at all
this is all spin re Woodwards book, I think.
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skeptic9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 11:54 AM
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13. Wonderful timing! The 9-11 Commission's April 13-14 hearings...
... on "Law Enforcement and the Intelligence Community" will have just ended a few days previously. In his most recent, full-hour, "Hardball" appearance, Richard Clarke was sure current (Ashcroft) and past Attorneys General and FBI Directors would testify at those hearings. Maybe MoveOn will pick up some more great footage for TV ads. Then Woodward will appear on "60 Minutes" to hammer Dubya from even more angles!
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:39 PM
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16. Two major whores try to reclaim their virginity...
Woodward, who used to be a journalist, is perhaps trying to reclaim his name after the disgraceful love-letter that was "Bush at War."
As for Powell, who cares what he says? He long ago gave up any claim to honor.

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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:40 PM
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17. Whoa!
Happy 500 mark to me!

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:58 PM
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19. Congratulations!
:bounce: :smile: I remember when Skinner banned everyone without 250 posts from starting new threads. I though I would never get there! But he quickly changed that rule...thank goodness! The next 500 will go quickly. :toast:

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:42 PM
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22. The redemption of these two, probably too much to hope for,
would be very interesting, Isere.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:38 PM
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24. I expect him to deliver another snow job.
the tepid off the record white house administration folks "concerns" sound like hype to me... get folks to read it and while it might have a few grains of negative - the real picture is another "strong war president" picture... just like his earlier puff piece.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:04 PM
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20. You mean Woodward's going to take his head out of Bush's ass?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:24 PM
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23. From the Ed. forum, Powell as "a dog that didn't bark" --
The Dogs That Didn't Bark
Why Colin Powell and George Tenet aren't bashing Richard Clarke.
By Fred Kaplan
Posted Wednesday, March 31, 2004, at 2:39 PM PT


In the short story "Silver Blaze," Sherlock Holmes solves the mystery of a stolen racehorse by observing that the stable's guard dog didn't bark—hence, the intruder was not a stranger.

The mystery of whether Richard Clarke is telling the truth about President Bush's counterterrorism policies might be solved the same way: Which dogs aren't barking? Amid all the administration officials bombarding the airwaves with denunciations, who has stayed mum?

The answer: Secretary of State Colin Powell and CIA Director George Tenet, and their silence speaks loudly....

***

Powell's implicit support of Clarke is significant. In his book, Clarke portrays Powell as his ally in the administration's internecine disputes over terrorism. He writes that when he briefed Bush's transition team in January 2001, "Colin Powell took the unusual step … of asking to meet with … the senior counterterrorism officers from NSC, State, Defense, CIA, FBI, and the military. … When we all agreed at the importance of the al Qaeda threat, Powell was obviously surprised at the unanimity" (Page 228).


http://slate.msn.com/id/2098067
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