Saddam Hussein

[blingbling8ball]

Who here thinks that Saddam will not live to see a trial, i think he won't, he has too much dirt on Bush and Co.

[blingbling8ball]

1. Haiti

I would also like to see some predictions about what will happen to Aristide.

[Heyo]

2. I really don't think....

He has any dirt on Bush.... nor do I think it matters.....

He is going on trial for crimes agaisnt humanity.. that he commited of his own free will.. with or without support from any other country....the man has committed attrocities since his youth, it's all he knows, and the reason why he came to power to begin with.. because he would maim and kill so easily, with NO regard for life or humanity whatsoever.

The sad part is even if he's executed he'll never get what he deserves...

I will never forget this interview I saw with this Kuwaiti who's speech was completely fubar because his tounge had been cut out...

A truly despicable man.

Heyo

[rogerashton]

11. Crimes against humanity?

I don't believe he can be tried in an Iraqi court for crimes against humanity. The would be UN or some other international venue. And that will not happen.

On the other hand, it is not as easy as all that to prove he has violated Iraqi law. In the first place, Iraqi law was made to suit him. In the second place, while he almost certainly has violated Iraqi laws (against conspiracy to murder, e.g.) he will blame that on overzealous underlings -- like any politician would -- and proof that he is lying will be difficult. (Witnesses dead, for example!)

Of course, he could be tried for breaking laws Iraq SHOULD have had -- that's called an ex post facto law and is contrary to the US constitution -- Of course he is not to be tried in the US so doesn't have the benefits of our constitutional protections -- but arguably ex post facto laws are themselves violations of human rights. The approach has been common to revolutionary tribunals, though.

[DrWeird]

12. "With or without support from another country"

If you're an honest person and want to put Saddam on trial then you should also support putting George Bush, Ronald Reagan, and other assorted goons on trial as well.

Saddam was our doing. You can't hate Saddam without hating the people who made him.

[Heyo]

18. You may not like those guys...

But to compare them with Saddam is just plain dishonest..

No disrespect intended... :toast:

Try to see the difference here.

Heyo

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

13. I don't think Saddam's despicability was in any way questioned.

Poster asked a completely different thing. Namely, will the * admin engage in a CYA operation by not allowing SH to go to trial?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

15. He was one of many evil dictators that the US helped to create

and he wasn't even a COMMUNIST! He was a totalitaian dictator who consolidated his power in the '80s, with the help of the Reagan and Bush I administrations.

Nice to see you're still on the side of 'righteousness'. Again, maybe reading history might help.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

16. If I recall correctly, he used to give communists the Pinochet treatment.

Am I wrong?

[Heyo]

19. I really could care less now...

...who did or didn't help create Saddam or whatever other dictator...

I support ALL brutal dictators who utilize torture and murder as policy going the way of the dodo...

Heyo

[skypilot]

3. Cancer

Wasn't Saddam diagnosed (or should I say "diagnosed") as having cancer a couple months ago?

[hexola]

4. I think finding him alive...

was their greatest fear...

I think it was set up so they HAD TO take him alive. Saddam looked pretty haggard - like somebody already had him imprisoned.

At this point - I would think Bush is probably asking Saddam for some advice...Like how do you control these Sunis? How the hell did you get all these people to live togather without killing each other?

[blingbling8ball]

5. politics

I'm 19 and only started keeping up with politics after I saw how Ashcroft pushed the Patriot Act throught the senate 6 weeks after 9/11, so i dont really know how to predict what will happen with Aristide.

[mikey_1962]

6. He has more on the Frogs and Ruskies

[cspiguy]

10. I think a .45 caliber solution to him would improve the situation

in Fah-loo-jah. His goons there still expect him to return to power.

[blingbling8ball]

7. dirt

What i meant by dirt was that if he ever got to talk he would mention how he got all of the wmds he did have from Reagan, then there's that picture of Rumsfeld and Saddam shaking hands, that kinda dirt, lol

[rumguy]

8. youth, brainwashed

this country needs to grow up, heh?

[Minstrel Boy]

9. He'll die in custody.

Two words: Abu Abbas. Remember? His widow says his medication was kept from him.

But, well, who gives a shit, right? Even here, many voiced blanket approval of any US action which might have hastened his demise.

Saddam will die without speaking, without even being seen again.

[Demonaut]

14. quiet trial, his lawyers wont be allowed to question rummy and his cohorts

[ButterflyBlood]

17. he'll be assasinated by "Kurdish" or "Shiite" extremists

before anything happens to him.

[sistersofmercy]

20. He'll never make it to trial

It's the same reason why Uday and Qusay didn't make it out of Iraq alive.

[Arkana]

21. He'll never see trial

He has too much on * and Dick. If they tried him, the cat would be REALLY out of the bag.

[neverborn]

22. Never make trial.