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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:32 PM
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Help me debunk an email re possible Kerry vote on Cop Concealed Carry bill!
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 02:52 PM by Devil Dog Dem
A cop friend of mine sent the email below and he wants my input. I told him that any bill that fails in the congress fails because Republicans want it to, since they control both chambers.
Anyone know whether this story has any truth to it?
Thanks

Just got this from Brian Mannion, President of the Washington Area Police
Emerald Society
>
> As mentioned in previous alerts, efforts to pass the Cop Concealed Carry
> Bill in the Senate were recently dealt a stunning setback. John Kerry had
> missed every single Senate vote this year while campaigning for President,
> but he flew into Washington D.C. to cast his vote in favor of a gun
control
> amendment. Kerry's vote stopped the Cop Carry Bill the very day it was
> predicted to be passed by the Senate. Kerry's treachery is no surprise
> given his close friendship with Senator Ted Kennedy, a long time and long
> winded opponent of Cop Concealed Carry.
>
> We still have a chance to get the Senate and House to vote on Cop
Concealed
> Carry this year. But we must act fast.
>
> Our Legislative Staff tells me that the bill may come up for a vote in the
> House as early as this week. - If that occurs, we'll be emailing you to
ask
> you to call and fax members of Congress.
>
> As LEAA's Executive Director, I personally worked with Congressman Duke
> Cunningham to write the very first cop carry bill more than a decade ago -
> and LEAA and I have fought non-stop for its passage ever since, even when
> other police groups opposed it. We've fought to keep retirees from being
> excluded and will continue to fight from attempts to weaken the bill with
> even more restrictions.
>
> But LEAA needs your help - We need your support to continue this fight,
and
> we're asking our members, supporters and friends for a special
contribution
> to support our fight to pass H.R. 218. Click the link below and you'll be
> taken to LEAA's secure servers where you can make a contribution of even
> just $20 - you support will make a difference, and with your support you
can
> count on LEAA to keep up the fight for everyone in law enforcement, active
> and retired - to have the right to protect themselves, their families and
> their community.
>
> Click here, or cut and past this link into your web browser:
> http://www.leaa.org/help218
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:42 PM
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1. Post the link to the site ...
thanks.
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:53 PM
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2. My Bad, the link is now in my post
here it is again:
http://www.leaa.org/help218
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:02 PM
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4. The default web site says ...
The Law Enforcement Alliance of America (LEAA) is the nation's largest non-profit, non-partisan coalition of law enforcement professionals, crime victims, and concerned citizens united for justice.

I would forward your e-mail to:

LEAA Contact Information

membership@leaa.org : for inquiries regarding membership issues

editor@leaa.org : to submit opinions, editorials or letters to the editor

And let them know that this is going on. I don't think they'd approve of it.
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:17 PM
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7. Great idea!
Thanks!
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:00 PM
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3. As far as I can tell the last action on this was in 2001
This seems like an old bill the is in a house subcommittee and had never even come up in front of the senate.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:HR00218:@@@L&summ2=m&
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:16 PM
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5. Here it is from the LEAA website
LEAA Applauds Senators for Voting 91 to 8 to Allow
Police to Carry Concealed Firearms

National Cop Carry May Be Killed By Anti-Gun Amendments

Washington, DC ­ LEAA Executive Director and retired police officer Jim Fotis commended the United States Senate for their astonishing and overwhelming bi-partisan 91-8 vote today to allow qualified off duty and retired law enforcement officers to carry their firearms nationwide. This legislation (formerly S. 253) was an amendment to the S. 1805 "The Lawful Protection of Commerce in Arms Act."

http://www.leaa.org/s1805vote.html

ok, after a little digging I found this out. The cop concealed carry bill was added as an amendment to S. 1805 which was the proposed bill to exempt fireamrs manufacturers from lawsuits. That amentment passed by a 91-8 vore with Kerry voting FOR it: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00026

The overall bill exempting firearms manufacturers from lawsuits failed, however by a vote of 90-8 (I think.) So, the email you got is bull crap. Kerry supported cop concealed carry.
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:17 PM
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6. Thanks Steviet!
You are great!

Semper Fi
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