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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:26 PM
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Update from Yahoo on the Letterman/CNN/WH squirming boy video.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&u=/ap/20040401/ap_en_tv/tv_cnn_letterman_1&printer=1

I still think the WH called....it was great last night. I hope the saga continues tonight.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:28 PM
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1. I rated it
:-)
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:30 PM
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2. So they lied about the white house calling, and they lied about the edit
Why? Who told them to do so? Where is the accountability?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:30 PM
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3. Dave needs to send Biff Henderson on a mission to find the kid.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:41 PM
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7. I'd like to see that kid again in a campaign as for John Kerry
Looking alive and awake and interested in every word JFK sez, with split screen showing junior & the kid.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:21 PM
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17. Wasn't it a kid in the fairy tale that was the only one
who could see the emperor had no clothes.
This kid should be a national hero!
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 08:49 PM
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36. Day 3 (about nothing): they found the kid...Entertainment Tonight did a
spot on this non-story this afternoon saying they talked to the parents and that the 12 year old was vacationing and had been up really late so he was sleepy. Ha ha. It was all very innocent and Bush is excused from even being boring. :eyes:

If they go through this much at NBC, CNN et al to cover up a story like this, one can only imagine what they do to cover up real news. Absolutely disgusting.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:33 PM
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4. So was CNN following orders from Karl Rove to discredit the story
or are they so thoroughly co-opted that they did it all on their own?
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MO_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:42 PM
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9. I'd say Karl Rove
First thing on Inside Politics, Bill Schneider did a segment on a conversation he'd had with Rove about why Kerry's poll numbers went down (in CNN's poll <ahem>), all about Rove said this, Rove said that, Rove, Rove, Rove--he's in charge of CNN, I say! Now we have the fair and balanced Karen Hughes!
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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:47 PM
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10. Karen Hughes
has been taking the same stuff that Schinder has...bad drugs!
seh makes me sick, why do I watch this crap!?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:38 PM
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5. I can't quite laughing, God how dumb of CNN ?
I quiet CNN a long time a go. Pimps & whores for a slimy lying crook that can't even complete a sentence. I don't understand it?
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:39 PM
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6. What a strange story - and then there's this Letterman quote:
"So when you cast your vote in November, just remember that the White House was trying to make ME look like a DOPE."

First Howard Stern, now Letterman. How long will be before the FCC starts cracking down on Dave, too?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:41 PM
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8. "a misunderstanding among our staff"
Oops! Somehow some of our staff mysteriously got the idea that the freaking WHITE HOUSE called. Sorry, it was just a misunderstanding.



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ezee Donating Member (615 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:49 PM
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11. The msiunderstanding
was that APRIL FOOLS DAY was a few days off. Of course they get most eveything else wrong I guess its its just par for the course.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:44 PM
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12. Send complaints to: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/
Ask them how folks can believe them when they report the White House told them the boy was "edited in" but a few days later it turns out someone in the "staff" made a mistake. What other mistakes are they making in reporting the News.

You don't quote the White House and call it a mistake!
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:41 PM
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32. Blitzer "mistakenly" quoted the White House too
Blitzer tried to backtrack from saying that the White House was suggesting there are "wierd" thinks in Richard Clarke's past; today objecting that he never mentioned the White House.

Someon posted some great links on the story earlier with a transcript of Wolfe's orginal comments and his "explaination." Links anybody?
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:49 AM
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39. I SAW Blitzer interrupt a guest a while back DURING
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 12:50 AM by SoCalDem
the guest's interview.. He said something like "..I just heard from a white house staffer who said that blahblahblah is NOT true..what do you say about THAT?"..

It was a live 5 minute or less interview, and there is no way that the phone system could have been negotiated in that short of a time to get to an ON-THE-AIR interviewer(Wolfie) ...


UNLESS they have a live feed to his FREAKING EAR !!!!!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:39 AM
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41. Here are the CNN transcripts of Wolf's backtrack --
Eschaton's CNN transcript of Wolf's response to Krugman's column:

BLITZER (3/30/04): Last Wednesday, while I was debriefing our senior White House correspondent, John King, I asked him if White House officials were suggesting there were some weird aspects to Richard Clarke's life. Clarke, of course, is the former counter-terrorism adviser who has sharply criticized the president's handling of the war on terror. I was not referring to anything charged by so-called unnamed White House officials as alleged today by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman. I was simply seeking to flesh out what Bush National Security Council spokesman Jim Wilkinson had said on this program two days earlier.

WILKINSON (videotape): Let me also point something. If you look in this book, you find interesting things such as reported in the Washington Post this morning. He's talking about how he sits back and visualizes chanting by bin Laden and how bin Laden has some sort of mind control over U.S. officials. This is sort of X-Files stuff. And what I'd say is, this is a man who was in charge of terrorism, Wolf, who was supposed to be focused on that. And he was focused on meetings.

BLITZER: Other than that, John Kerry (sic) reported White House officials were not talking about Clarke's personal life in any way. Lou Dobbs Tonight starts right now.


(Note, this from transcript above: "I was not referring to anything charged by so-called UNNAMED WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS as alleged today by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman.")


Now the transcript of Wolf's original statement that Krugman referred to in his column:

BLITZER (question to King, Wednesday, 3/24/04): What ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS have been saying since the weekend, basically that Richard Clarke from their vantage point was a disgruntled former government official, angry because he didn't get a certain promotion. He's got a hot new book out now that he wants to promote. He wants to make a few bucks, and that his own personal life, they're also suggesting that there are some weird aspects in his life as well, that they don't know what made this guy come forward and make these accusations against the president. Is that the sense that you're getting, speaking to a wide range of officials?


(Must have been Wolf's nervousness trying to pull off that lame excuse that caused him to misspeak and refer to WH correspondent John King, as John Kerry --)

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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:48 PM
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13. I'm so fascinated by this story
Notice that this was brought up by Kagan, AFTER THE BREAK, when she came back and tacked on that little lie. Someone told her to say that.

She clearly said that the WH had called! Someone told her that, who did, and why?
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:50 PM
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14. What I love about this is that Letterman will NEVER let this
die!!!!

He will rag them for eternity.

:bounce:
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dogonarug Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:55 PM
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19. Oprah sighs relief!
Dave has a new target! though I think Dave ragging on Oprah all this time was somewhat friendly.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:35 PM
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29. Oh please. Poor billionaire Oprah. Give me a break..
LOL
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:02 PM
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15. Letterman said last night that a source at CNN confirmed the WH call
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 08:44 PM
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35. That's right!
The Yahoo story is not up to date, last night (Wed) Dave said that the WH did call CNN.I love how Dave comes right out and calls a liar a liar.
More to come - I hope.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:16 PM
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16. Leave No Journalist Behind - New Gov initiative
Just fired this off to CNN:

Regarding CNN Errs on Reporting Bush-Letterman Bit
(http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&u=/ap/20040401/ap_en_tv/tv_cnn_letterman_1&printer=1)

My viewer response: This is not an error, this is bald-faced lie.

Does the "Brookings/Harvard Forum: Press Coverage and the War on Terrorism: "The CNN Effect": How 24-Hour News Coverage Affects Government Decisions and Public Opinion (http://www.brookings.edu/comm/transcripts/20020123.htm)" ring a bell?

Its a shame Ms. Woodroof didn't take notes at this session and share them with the typing pool at CNN.

And one final question -- In my profession (and in most others), we require frequent re-tooling and accredition to maintain our professional stature. Do you suppose the next president of the United States (whoever that may be) should sponsor a new federal initiative -- "Leave No Journalist Behind" program?
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:45 PM
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18. I seem to be emailing CNN every other day
they are so pathetic. But what to do? FOX is out, & MSNBC keeps getting worse, if that's possible.

A couple of years ago, I liked MSNBC, but they radically changed. I think they tried to copy FOX with their snappy music, empty headed female anchors, & concentration on trash stories.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:46 PM
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26. I don't think that it's - I think you've gotton wiser.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:01 PM
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20. Article about the boy from Orlando. LOL
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 06:02 PM by madfloridian
http://www.wesh.com/news/2967927/detail.html

SNIP..."Sleepy Florida Boy Featured On Letterman Show

POSTED: 3:33 pm EST April 1, 2004
UPDATED: 3:51 pm EST April 1, 2004

New York -- A 13-year-old Orlando boy is getting a lot of attention for being a little sleepy. He was featured on David Letterman's "Late Show" as part of a collection of video clips Letterman showed Monday under the label "George W. Bush Invigorates America's Youth."

One showed Bush at a March rally in Orlando standing at a lectern with several listeners behind him -- among them, a boy in his early teens who could barely stay awake. While Bush spoke, the young man yawned, twisted his head, checked his watch and generally seemed dead on his feet....."

SNIP...."The father is taking full responsibility for Tyler's sleep deprivation, telling the Orlando Sentinel: "His mother was out of town, and I let him stay up too late."

Hilarious.
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:16 PM
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21. I'm sure Howard Kurtz is on the case and getting to the bottom
of this story. Yeah right.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:24 PM
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22. So who originated the lie? And for what reason?


If the WH didn't call CNN, someone at CNN fabricated a story about the WH calling. Who? Why?


If the WH did call CNN, someone at CNN fabricated a story about the WH not calling. Who? Why?


The only thing that is for sure in this story is that CNN is lying.
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SEAburb Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:34 PM
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23. And why aren't any of the other networks picking up the story
to kill a rival? Hard to believe Fox or MSNBC wouldn't exploit this if CNN made up the call from White House.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:59 AM
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42. Oh, I'll bet
Fox News Watch will jump on this one this weekend.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:34 PM
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24. I was born at night--but not last night
...CNN host Daryn Kagan added: "We're being told by the White House that the kid, as funny as he was, was edited into that video, which would explain why the people around him weren't really reacting."

Later, during CNN's "Live From ...," anchor Kyra Phillips reran the tape but cautioned viewers: "We're told that the kid was there at that event, but not necessarily standing behind the president."

The truth was: The White House never complained, and the footage was real.


Well, WAS there a call--or two? Who at CNN took it? If the call wasn't made by the Bush White House, then who--a prankster of some kind? Oh, well, it's a good thing that Bush isn't having credibility problems right now...

:eyes:
rocknation

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:38 PM
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25. The CIA disinformation interns at CNN jumped the gun...
I guess that's why they're "interns"...
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:40 PM
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31. LOL!
:evilgrin: :thumbsup: :toast:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:46 PM
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27. The White House DID call them.
Why would CNN say that the White House called them in the first place if they didn't call? That makes NO sense. What, they just made it up, out of thin air? How, exactly, does someone make a "mistake" like that?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:30 PM
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28. This is the son of the Orange County chairman...Rich Crotty...it is real.
http://www.local6.com/news/2968435/detail.html

SNIP..."ORLANDO, Fla. -- The son of Orange County Chairman Rich Crotty is getting nationwide attention after being featured on David Letterman's "Late Show" yawning, twisting his head and falling asleep at a rally for President George W. Bush...."

Great pics from the video here. I am loving this.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:37 PM
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30. Your link offers viewing of the actual video also
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:44 PM
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33. This guy is a Bush Pioneer! I love it.
Thanks,I did not realize the video was there. It is so funny.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 08:20 PM
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34. Thanks for the link! I have been wishing Dave would

show the video again because of course I missed Monday night. The past two nights have been hilarious, though. Dave's imitation of himself being dragged off in cuffs, doing the perp walk, was classic.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:24 AM
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40. I'm wondering...
Was the kid really "sleepy" or did he pull a prank here? Curious minds need to know.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:31 AM
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43. Who cares?
That was an incredible "Kids Do the Darndest Things" moment. WHAT A HOOT! What is truly AMAZING is a fidgeting kid yanking back the curtain on DA MEDIA MAN. *dimwit wants to go mano-a-mano with Dave, eh? Pass the popcorn! :toast:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:31 AM
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37. Kick nt
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:34 AM
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38. Dave said the kid is coming on his show - I think tomorrow night
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:42 AM
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44. Of course the White House called
CNN is covering up for this bunch of losers. This also is a pretty good way to tell other entertainers as well as "serious" journalists that you could be in big trouble if you take us on. Unbiased reporting yeah right!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:43 AM
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45. I wonder how bad
this kid's dad is going to punish him for embarrassing the pResident?

Of course as a true repug the dad will be all smiles, ha-ha, it's really my fault in public but when that kid gets home, I bet he's gonna get it.


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