So does Randi ever shut the F*ck-up and listen?

[Township75]

Holy freaking balls! I understand this is a new network, but this woman needs to let callers talk rather than just talk over them.

Also, it would be nice if she talked about issues rather than herself. I missed the whole Nader things, so maybe I would feel differently if I had. But now, it seems like all she wants to talk about is herself, and the issues only come up when they relate to her.

Seriously, you want to talk about how you kill Rush on the air all the time, and then you can't even operate the phones.

Hope it gets better soon.

stepping off soap box now

[movonne]

1. Have you ever heard her before???She is really great!!! give her

a chance.

[Doctor_J]

2. not really

I like her attitude, but my one complaint with her is that she doesn't really talk in sentences, with breaths in between - she just yammers for minutes on end. Take a breath, listen to the callers,

[hiphopnation]

5. She's pissed!

I could listen to her rant on end sans callers. It's about freakin' time. It's true that she doesn't listen much. Maybe she should cut the caller segmant out altogether.

[SemperEadem]

54. you have to shut bullshit down right in its tracks

perhaps that's what she's doing.

[Gman]

3. Randi rocks!

I would love to see a caged chain death match between Randi and Anthrax Coulter.

[okieinpain]

29. did you hear the one between her and ollie north.

[Midwest_Doc]

4. She can talk as much as she wants ...

She is FANTASTIC!

[mouse7]

6. Because people don't tune into radio for listeners

How do you broadcast good listeners on the radio?

[Township75]

7. Speak for yourself.

No doubt the biggest contribution to the show is the host, but it can also be the biggest detriment.

I tuned into AA to hear the common liberal across the US. And with hear, it is beginning to sound as if I am wasting my time.

[BeHereNow]

16. Hang in there and try a Pacifica link during Rhodes-

I have truly enjoyed what I have heard today on AA.
My husband asked if Randi was Ann Coulter when he
walked in the room during her Nadar interview.
I nearly died laughing- He was serious, he did not know
about AA radio.
"Who is that woman?" He asked, "Is that Ann Coulter? Turn that off!"
Fortunately, we live in L.A. and have a Pacifica station I can
switch to during Randi the Ranter.
I am wondering if she is actually Bill O'Really in drag...hmmm?"
I find her approach to be extremely crass. She is bully and I
detest bullies.
Try one of these during Randi:
http://www.kpfa.org (Los Angeles) Will Pitt was on yesterday!
http://www.kpfk.org (San Francisco)
http://www.wbai.org (New York)

BHN

[mouse7]

19. Fine, you're wasting your time. See ya.

I'm tired of inconsiderate people such as this who are incapable of relating constructive criticism.

Don't let the door hit you in the ass as you leave.

[BeHereNow]

21. Mouse7...

Why are you so insulting to people who don't love Randi?
I just saw you post on another thread about us attacking
one another, and that Bush didn't need to defeat us, we
would do ourselves in...and yet you just told someone
not to let the door hit them in the ass?
Not to be an elitist or anything, but would you mind
explaining the reality gap between that post and your behavior
of attacking and insulting fellow DUers?
BHN

[mouse7]

26. I'm insulting to rude people.

I don't see any consideration for the fact people like me have been waiting for liberal talk radio for more than a decade, and on Day 2 of finally getting it, people like this are screaming profanity at a liberal because the liberal chews gum and talks over the comments of guest. The anger is astoundingly over the top and completely out of proportion. There's no "crime" here in talking over a caller or guest. It's a broadcasting technique. It isn't criminal wrongdoing.

If you don't like some aspect of a broadcast, write it up in review form with laguage appropriate for what one feels the errors are. You're such a proponent of NPR, BHN. Do you hear NPR broacasters using rhetoric approaching, "shut the fuck up, brownshirts, etc?

Not only no, but fuck no.

[BeHereNow]

36. WHEN did I say I was a proponent of NPR?

WHAT ARE you smokin' mouse?!?
I NEVER once suggested anyone listen to NPR!
I would not wish NPR on my WORST enemy.
For the record- I happen to like 90% of what I have heard
on AA. Intelligent and alternative information
and discussion among informed and reasonable people.
I don't like the similarities of Randi to her right-wing
counterparts.
I find shouting and bullying people equally unattractive
in both liberals and conservatives.
I am consistent in my standards, that is all.
Unattractive behavior is unattractive behavior
no matter who is exhibiting it.
We are allowed to have different standards, are we not?
You like Randi? Good, I am happy that she makes you
happy. I find her crass. The beauty is, you can listen and
I can switch the channel to Pacifica, which you might
enjoy too. By the way, Pacifica is NOT NPR. Not at all.
It is alternative, non corporate media.
Completely listener supported and therefore unbeholden
to any corporate interference.
Ever heard DemocracyNow?
I think you would like it.
http://www.democracynow.org.
BHN

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[SemperEadem]

57. so now, it devolves into name calling and being pissy...

how mature.

[mouse7]

59. BHN called me a brownshirt yesterday. I'm being pretty reserved.

I think I was being pretty fair today considering he called me a facist twice yesterday on threads.

Go look it up.

[BeHereNow]

61. I did not ACTUALLY call you that...

Although I did imply that you might own some.
And he is a she.
I apologize for insinuating that you might own a brown shirt
of two...I was pretty angry about some of the insults you hurled
at me. I am ashamed that I resorted to that, but honestly,
I found your attacks on me fairly insulting.
PEACE.
BHN

[BeHereNow]

58. Perhaps if you feel that I am "talking down" to you

it is because you are insecure?
I am not talking down to you.
I am trying to be gracious and meet you on
some level of human decency.
You keep putting words and attitudes in my
mouth and mind that simply are not true.
Again, I have NEVER endorsed NPR.
And you are wrong about Pacifica,
in Los Angeles it is responsible for bringing
people of like mind together in enormous numbers
who actually DO effect change in our community.
In short, I find your defensiveness to be indicative
of a great insecurity on your part. I am sorry if I
have triggered that in you. It was never my intention.
For now, I think we should agree to disagree since
I don't seem to be able to find a ground for discussion
with you in whcih you do not feel threatened and inclined
to lash out at me.
PEACE-
BHN

[mouse7]

62. You were gracious when you called me a "brownshirt" yesterday?

That's a first. I've never seen anyone claim they were being gracious when they called someone a facist.

The insecurity isn't in me. I'm just tired of seeing freepers quote you guys rants in their threads being used to talk about how much AA sucks.

[BeHereNow]

65. Please see my apology above.

If you will notice and actually admit, I have
tried VERY hard to be gracious with you today.
I posted on another thread that we actually agreed
on something.
You have yet to acknowledge any of your insults to me.
I have, I apologized and now I am done.
PEACE-
BHN
On edit: Apology on #61

[ieoeja]

73. I'm with mouse7 (sort of).

Not the insults, but the reason for the insults.

A couple Sundays ago I was watching a gay activist debating whatever you call the guys who oppose gay marriage. Then it suddenly occured to me. Here I am listening to the opponents logical, reasoned arguments as if his words actually mean something. But I know that in reality he isn't really saying what he thinks. Instead he is coming up with a reasoned argument to support his unreasonable position. I know that he is really there because he hates fags and queers. He knows that is why he is really there. The gay activist knows this. The moderator knows this. But nobody is saying it.

Air America is saying it. This, I thought, was supposed to be the point of Air America. The whole point of Air America is to present the progressive view in a rabble rousing fashion that appeals to the masses. If you want staid, intellectual and polite discussions of the issues ... switch channels. If you want the unvarnished truth, listen to Randi.

By the way, I know what to call "the guys who oppose gay marriage". It's "bigot". But that show was the kind of show you like where they don't make impolite accusations of that kind.

[mouse7]

78. DING DING DING. Somebody gets it.

Thanks.

[BeHereNow]

81. Good- I am happy that you are happy-

Interesting that you have not acknowledged my apology
or offered one of your own. 'Nuff said.
I think you have revealed your character sufficiently.

BHN

[mouse7]

86. Just knew you'd prove by yourself it wasn't offered unconditionally

Thanks.

[BeHereNow]

88. It is unconditional-

Unfortunately, not reciprocal.
You simply can not admit any wrong, can you?
I can, I did.
That's the difference between me and you.
BHN

[mouse7]

93. You don't know much about apologies do you?

You don't offer them while talking about how wrong the other person is and simultaneously cast further insults.

[BeHereNow]

102. Mouse7

Enough.
We are obviously on two VERY different levels of
consciousness.
I simply don't have the energy for this kind of vindictiveness.
I apologized to you and I am at peace with that.
Sorry you are so unhappy.
BHN

[Puglover]

120. Since when is DU a support group?

n/t

[sangh0]

82. Damn that was good!!!

I'm glad to see that someone gets it, and knows how to explain it

Thanks

[Puglover]

117. I totally agree with you Mouse...

I'm so over the whimpering simpering, meek shall inherit the earth, I need to derive profundity from the fucking cracks on the walls liberals. As far as I see it that mind set is what has put us where we are right now. If Al Gore had sent someone besides sweet little Warren Christopher to face James Baker we might just not be in this nightmare. I do not take any particular joy being confrontational or calling bullshit for what it is but the other side took their gloves off a long time ago and until liberals get it through their skulls that we gotta start being tough and taking no prisoners we are going to continue to be fodder for the right.
That rant being ranted Randi is great. She is a typical Brooklyn gal and she handled Ralphie perfectly. He called wanting his never ending ego to be stroked and enabled yet again and she let him know what most rational liberals are thinking. The shoe alegory was great. It was complimentary but perfectly illustrative of what Nader is right now. If the lady who posted above husband can't tell the difference between Ann Coulter and Randi I'd suggest sit and listen for awhile rather then making snap judgements.
And once again, if you don't like it don't fuckin listen! Now flame away at will!

[wyldwolf]

84. Once again someone is definining "liberal" based on their opinion

I tuned into AA to hear the common liberal across the US. And with her, it is beginning to sound as if I am wasting my time.

Smacks of elitism. The poster implies Randi isn't a liberal.

[orwell]

8. Not NPR

This is her style—brash, New York, in your face radio. This type of radio format lives on confrontation. This is what Rush, Savage and Hannity understand. It is refreshing to hear someone on the left dish it out to a national audience. We get Bernie Ward and Ray Taliafero in the Bay Area so we are used to this kind of Blitzkrieg Talk on the left. Both of those guys have been on for years so it does catch and hold an audience.

This is not NPR. If you don't like it, don't listen.

O

[hiphopnation]

9. amen n/t

[ronnykmarshall]

11. Amen, again.

I just love this woman.

[okieinpain]

32. thanks. these guy's should have heard sam greenfield

http://hometown.aol.com/massapequa/SamGreenfield.html

[Kathy in Cambridge]

52. Exactly. And we complain that liberals have no cojones

then when a WOMAN has a brash style, like Randi's, DUers freak out.

If you are going to win converts from all walks of life, cooing brie-and-chablis radio doesn't cut it.

[Missy Vixen]

111. Thank you

>It is refreshing to hear someone on the left dish it out to a national audience. We get Bernie Ward and Ray Taliafero in the Bay Area so we are used to this kind of Blitzkrieg Talk on the left. Both of those guys have been on for years so it does catch and hold an audience.<

I alternate listening to Bernie Ward and Mike Webb nightly. I'd listen to Ray Taliaferro as well, but most of the time, I'm asleep. I've also been listening to Randi Rhodes' streaming from Florida for almost a year.

I am thrilled to hear Randi on AA. She makes her points with facts and doesn't back down, especially when she confronted a man that the rest of the Democrats are too damn scared to confront. You bet the conservatives will tune in. Hopefully, they'll learn something. She also is the breakout star of Air America.

Let's hope that she'll bring Mike Malloy to the fold sooner than later. I'd also relinquish our area's wonderful Mike Webb to them; our loss is the country's gain.

Julie

[xultar]

10. Well you got Randi or Rush,

Randi or Hannity
Randi or Beck
Randi or O'Liely
Randi or Snow
Randi or Savage


Take your pick

[maddezmom]

12. RANDI

but I think Ed Shultz is on during this time as well.

[messiah]

15. Thom Hartmann! Mike Malloy!

[Colin Ex]

22. Or you could turn the radio off and read a book.

Or you could turn the radio off and go for a walk.
Or you could turn the radio off and masturbate.
Or you could turn the radio off and spend time with your kids.
Or you could turn the radio off and put on a record.

[Emboldened Chimp]

114. Um, we call them 'CDs' now-a-days, not records

:P

[ProfessorGAC]

145. Um, It's Still A Record, manco

Record is a short form of recording. Since a CD was still a recorded work of the artist, everything is a record. Also, they're all albums, no matter the format.

The correct name of the media that you snarkily corrected the other poster over was LP.

Yes, they're CD in format. But, they're still a record.
The Professor

[sangh0]

13. Yeah, that's what we need

STFU and listen. We liberals have do TOO much talking

[mouse7]

20. Fine, listen to Rush

Lord knows the liberals know how to keep their "proper place" on Rush's show, huh?

[sangh0]

24. mouse7

please adjust your sarcasmometer

[Puglover]

122. again mouse I totally agree...

the above exchange you had illustrates the need for some to derive profundity from cracks on the wall while missing the point entirely.
All the time of course being "nice".
:eyes:

[bandy]

14. What you'll don't understand

is Randi has waited so long to get the message out (outside of Palm Beach County), plus she has been off the air for weeks. Please give the lady a break. She left West Palm Beach, moved to NY and now she is unleashed. Give her some time. She will set you free.

[xultar]

17. Randi don't need no break, what is this her 2nd show or something? n/t

[onecitizen]

18. Lookie here.........

she's just getting warmed up. A little nervous I would imagine. When she gets used to things she will thrill you with her knowledge. No really. She will. She can talk for hours about the issues without slowing down or missing a beat.

I will say, she can scream....hehe......but I love it!

[ladjf]

23. Not very effective.

I read the transcript of the Nader interview and felt that her interviewing skills were weak. She wasn't helping our cause. She just kept repeating to Nader that she was angry with him as though she was hung in a loop.

We need some more powerful people if we are going to have any chance of succeeding with the Air America project.

[sangh0]

25. You read the transcript?

And now you're an expert on propoganda?

[ladjf]

28. Expert on propaganda.

I don't connect your question about my expertise on propaganda to my comments about Randi's performance. I didn't claim to be an expert on anything, just offered an opinion. What was your problem with that?

[sangh0]

31. Your comments outstrip your knowledge

Go and re-read your previous post. You predict failure, not "just offered an opinion"

[mouse7]

30. Fine... listen to Rush

I'm sure Rush will do a much better job interviewing Nader.

[BeHereNow]

51. THAT is the problem people are having Mouse

You just nailed it.
There was no difference in an interview with Rush or Randi.
The shouting, "I'm mad at you" approach could have
just as easily been Rush.
It is the technique that people are disappointed with.
It is too familiar, we have seen it far too long
on the other side of the market, and many
people find it juvenile and unthinking.
If you are armed with truth, there is no need to bully.
THAT is what the O'reallys of the world resort to.
BHN

[sangh0]

55. "There was no difference"

Oy vey!

"There's no difference" between a liberal and a conservative

It is the technique that people are disappointed with.

More BS. It's a technique FEW people are disappointed with. The ratings make it clear, EXCEEDINGLY CLEAR, that most people are NOT disappointed when the host talks over a guest. Howard Stern, O'Reilly, Crossfire, etc ALL do it and all are successful.

We don't have to attract the liberals that listen to Democracy Now or NPR. They're not voting for Bush*!! We need Independents and Repukes. They don't listen to NPR

[americanstranger]

64. Hey, just like there's no difference

between Bush and Gore!

Heh.

-as

[Jim Sagle]

113. Bingo!

[wellst0nev0ter]

126. Do You Wanna Know Why Rush Is So Successful?

Because the word "nuance" and "fair exchange" are foreign words to him. No matter how wrong he is, he thinks he's right and no "fair exchange" in the world will convince him otherwise.

He and the rest of his clones know they are presenting a product to the people, and people are not going to buy a Nissan if the ad says "well some people say the vehicle is reliable. . ."

NO, the ad makes their conviction known that the Nissan is the best car out there and you should go buy it. Period, end of sentence.

Randi is popular in the Palm Beach area because she knows she's right, flays any and every one who think's she's wrong AND, most important, she has the facts to back it up.

The interview she did with Ralph Nader is textbook Randi and should be the format of all liberal radio personalities. She could have wasted time agreeing with Ralph Nader that third party politics had their merits OR she could do what she does best and call him out on his bullshit about how there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between the two parties. "Who would you caucus with? If you won't caucus with anyone, what kind of effect are you going to have if you are elected?" that is the type of thing that needs to get out there.

I'm sick and fuggin tired of liberals being typecasted as indecisive, compromising and desultory all the time. At the minimum we need to be repeating this over the airwaves: WE ARE RIGHT. THEY ARE WRONG. And this country would be in a way better shape if we controlled things.

</rant>

[sangha]

141. Right, we don't need radio to get liberals to vote

The goal here is to attract votes from people who might vote Dem. We need all sort of views, not five different voices expressing the same views and tone. Let a thousand flowers bloom...then we'll see which ones work

[Emboldened Chimp]

116. There is a big difference, BHN...

and she has said as much herself: though she screams, what she is saying is based on facts. She gets her shit straight first, then lets fly. Who cares if she's brash? As long as she's right in what she's saying, that's fine with me.

[mot78]

139. Plus she doesn't play dirty

She blasted that caller who suggested she photoshop a picture of Condi Rice with an ape. Which she compared doing to something Limpballs did to lampoon "welfare moms".

[ladjf]

143. I want Air America to succeed.

In order to do that, we need to get some very sharp people representing the liberal view. If you think Randi did a great job, that's fine.

[bobbyboucher]

79. I listened to it, and it was worse live

than could ever be transcribed. She was so fuckin whiney it was unlistenable.

[mouse7]

104. Fine. Listen to Rush whine.

It's so much more tolerable when it's a deep male voice doing the whining.

[Woodstock]

125. Again the whine - what is it with you and that word?

They say you can tell what a person fears by the derogatory words they choose to use. I'm always suspicious when whine is used to describe strong women.

[onecitizen]

103. Well the thing is, she will tell you.......

she wasn't interviewing him. She wanted to confront him. And like her style or not, that's what she did. Look how people are talking about her today. A few posts about AA in general but face it, Randi struck a chord, good or bad. Stations don't care WHY you listen, just that you DO listen. Randi knows this.


edited for spelling

[Puglover]

123. she told nader a number of times...

"this isn't an interview" try listening.

[okieinpain]

27. put me down as a randi lover, been listening for more than

a year now. yes she talks over the callers, but that's not such a bad thing. because when she allows them to talk, I usually end up wishing she would talk over them.

I love her, and wish her the best.

[Woodstock]

33. I like her just the way she is

She's terrific. I enjoy every minute of her shows.

[eleny]

34. Here ya go - plenty more to choose from

http://www.zianet.com/insightanalytical/radio.htm :hi:

[HornBuckler]

35. She's A Douche

I'm Sorry, I Want To Like Her But It's Day Two And She Still Is Coming Off As A Blowhard. Talking The Way She Does Is Ignorant And Disrespectful To Her Listeners (And Her Callers! Jesus, She's Nicer Today, But Still Vehement)

Howard Stern Is A New Yorker, He Can Be Shrill, But He's A Helluva Lot Easier To Listen To. ( I Realize He Doesn't Do A Political Show ). It's Simple Radio Etiquette, You Can Act Like Hannity Or Limbaugh And Make The Left Look Rabid And Rant-filled Like The Right.

She's Not Helping The Liberals, She's Undermining Us.

[neverborn]

39. Must you

type in all caps ?

[HornBuckler]

42. Sorry - Habit!

It's A Bad Habit I Know, But I Can't Type As Fast/Well If I Type Normal (I Know, I'm A Freak I Guess)

[mouse7]

66. Then slow your typing down

Typical reaction... deal with the annoying habit because it's a minor inconvenience to you to fix it.

INCONVENIENCE YOURSELF not us.

[eleny]

46. See posting #34 in this thread

Buh-bye :hi:

[HornBuckler]

53. It's Not That I Can't Listen To Someone Else

I can change the radio dial like anybody else. I am simply giving my opinion of her. I can give you my opinion of other radio hosts as well if you'd like :)

[slinkerwink]

70. How dare a WOMAN stand up against the right-wing callers?!?!

[Missy Vixen]

108. She's a what?

>She's A Douche<

Excuse me? Was this meant to be funny?

>Talking The Way She Does Is Ignorant And Disrespectful To Her Listeners (And Her Callers! Jesus, She's Nicer Today, But Still Vehement)<

I've been listening to her for most of the show today. She just finished up a very thoughtful interview with Kevin Phillips, the author of "American Dynasty".

Is she "ignorant and disrespectful" because she's a woman who dares to speak her opinion?

>Howard Stern Is A New Yorker, He Can Be Shrill, But He's A Helluva Lot Easier To Listen To. ( I Realize He Doesn't Do A Political Show ). It's Simple Radio Etiquette, You Can Act Like Hannity Or Limbaugh And Make The Left Look Rabid And Rant-filled Like The Right.<

Again. Is your criticism based in the fact that she's a woman who dares to have an opinion, and to speak up about that opinion?

Julie

[morgan2]

37. randi made a complete idiot of herself

In the 10 minutes I listened today, she started going off about electronic voting based on someone advocating IRV. She seemed to have no clue what it was and stated that computerized voting cant handle IRV. Even Diebold built their machines to be able to do IRV elections... IRV has nothing to do with whether or not its an electronic machine. She really does need to shut the fuck up and listen to what the callers are saying.

[HornBuckler]

38. Does Anybody Like Her?

Seems The Majority Of Us On DU Dislike Her A Lot.

[maddezmom]

43. love her

:)

[sangh0]

56. loved her

.

[maddezmom]

60. loved her yesterday and love her again today

and all the other times I've listened. :)

[ronnykmarshall]

71. Love her more than my luggage.

[tishaLA]

90. Love her more than ronny's luggage

[onecitizen]

119. I love her more........

than all y'all's luggage.:D

[tkmorris]

105. I like her

Jury's still out on you.

[ladjf]

144. I'd never heard of her until yesterday.

But, apparently she has a large following. That's fine.

If Air America has any chance at all to gain ground on the right wing ideologues, we're going to have to find spokespeople who can cut through the hyperbole and nail the opponents to the wall. Last week I saw Gore Vidal on a talk TV show and he absolutely reduced the Republican shill to a pool of blubber by using intellect and humor.
Just shouting back at an opponent wins no arguments IMO.

At issue here is not whether we may or may not "like" Randi. The point is we've got to do everything we can to get Bush out of office.

[neverborn]

41. I love her

Second time listener. I love her.

[HornBuckler]

44. Be Honest!

Do You Sometimes Find Yourself Listening To Rush/Hannity? I'm Not Implying You Agree With Their Politics, But I Am Curious If You Just Like That Type Of Radio Personality?

[eleny]

48. Absolutely not

Never. I have too much pride in myself to subject myself. Bye.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

63. No, I tend to dislike lying rightwing assholes...

...but that's just a personal opinion.

[neverborn]

110. I've only heard ...

Rush once.

I have turned Hannity on just to see what idiocy he's saying, not very often.

[FlaGranny]

47. I care a lot more about what SHE is saying than her callers.

[redqueen]

97. Someone else has commented on her getting stuff wrong.

Maybe she's just trying to be *exactly* like Rush.
;)

[mouse7]

121. Thank you for the feedback, Mr. Jesus Christ from Bethlehem

Mr. Christ... I appreciate the fact that you are lucky enough to not have to worry about sinning, making mistakes, etc. I would appreciate a little smypathy for the rest of us who do.

[ldf]

137. she started going off about electronic voting

what she was saying was that the voting machines that were being used in those states WERE NOT CAPABLE OF INSTANT RUNOFF VOTING.

duh!

she knows exactly what IRV is, but if the machines, nor the programing, are capable, the arguement is moot.

right now we do not have time to insist on IRV. it ain't gonna, and can't, happen.

today was my second experience of randi and i love her. we have to let people know that we are angry and are not gonna take this shit any more.

randi does that in spades.

[mot78]

140. She's probably just misinformed

[derby378]

40. Just got off the phone with Randi

I'm the guy who said that bombing Iraqi fetuses is "murder in self-defense."

From my experience, after being on the phone with several local and national talk radio types, you just have to remember that although Randi, Al, etc. take calls, (1) Callers are guests, not hosts - and you have to make enough room for others to participate. (2) Make your points quick, concise, and as intelligent as possible. Humor usually doesn't hurt, either.

Randi's very outspoken - but her darts actually stick in the corkboard while Hannity's bounce off and threaten nearby bar patrons. I don't know if I'd call Randi a blowhard, but from my view here in the talk-radio wasteland of Dallas, she is a tall drink of cool spring water.

[GreenPartyVoter]

49. I heard ya on there. Ya done good!

:yourock:

[FlaGranny]

50. Exactly. You got it.

I heard you - you were great.

[slinkerwink]

67. How dare a WOMAN be assertive on talk radio?!?!?

[Colin Ex]

68. I don't think that's the issue here.

Nobody gives a fuck that she's a woman. At least I sure as hell don't.

What the detractors (again, at least this is my perspective) give a fuck about is that she's a liberal Rush Limbaugh, and Rush Limbaugh still wouldn't be a useful human being if he were a liberal. (That's kind of a garbled sentence, but you get the idea.)

In other words, saying stuff like "HOW DARE A WOMAN BE ASSERTIVE" and pretending that's the issue is just lame.

-C

[slinkerwink]

69. lol....I don't care about poor Ralph Nader--Randi Rhones' got more balls!

[rumguy]

72. it's Rhodes

[ronnykmarshall]

74. As they say in the UK

Here, here!

[Colin Ex]

76. That doesn't really answer the question, though.

I think you and I both know that people are ragging on Randi Rhodes because she's acting like a clone of Rush Limbaugh, not because she's a woman.

It's okay to admit you're wrong.

-C

[slinkerwink]

83. nope----what if Franken had done the same? I doubt you'd be upset about it

[Colin Ex]

87. Someone being a jackass and yelling over guests

is jackass behaviour regardless of the gender.

Not everyone who doesn't like Randi Rhodes dislikes her because she's a woman. (Really.)

I like Al Franken's chill and humorous style. It means I like chill and humorous styles, not that I like listening to dudes instead of women.

Sexism = not the issue here.

-C

[slinkerwink]

96. yeah, yeah, yeah, right....

:eyes:

[Colin Ex]

99. You aren't really listening to me, are you? nt

[slinkerwink]

101. nope......I'm talking over you....

;-)

[ladjf]

146. Franken doesn't believe in any of the conspiracy theories

I think that was a terrible mistake for him to make that blanket statement. Many of the assertions made a year ago that were classified as being "conspiracy theories" have been pr oven to be true.
If Al is the best we've got, we're in trouble.

[FlaGranny]

132. She's not acting like anything - I've listened to her

on the radio off and on for years. She is just the same as she has always been.

[BeHereNow]

85. EXACTLY ColinEx

You can be assertive without being crass.
It is far more effective in the long run.
Are you graduating this year???
WHEE-HAW BABY!
Details, I want details!
BHN
PS: I am also offended by the hypocrisy and double
standards that being a loud mouthed jerk is fine
on a "librul" but oh so offensive on a conservative.
Make up your mind folks.

[Colin Ex]

89. Haha, I graduated last year.

Getting rolling in college now, finishing up my first year.

So far so good. One year down!

-C

[BeHereNow]

91. You GO baby!

BTW- the offer still stands when the draft comes up.
Your California Mom-
BHN

[Colin Ex]

92. Haha. Thank you very much.

Hopefully I won't need it, but I appreciate the shit out of it.

Rock.

[Jim Sagle]

118. It's not a double standard, it's payback.

[Colin Ex]

134. Making friends: The American Way.

That's what this post looks like to moi.

[bobbyboucher]

75. I'm sure she's running them off in droves.

She did a real disservice to all of us with that whiney Nader interview. Who would want to listen to that shit?

She really needs to consider raising the level of her schtick.

[tkmorris]

112. You might to call in

I am sure she would appreciate your input.

Seriously, do you expect to like the style of every Democrat in America? That's kind of elitist don't you think? There are plenty of Dems I don't care for but I don't feel the need to go on the internet and trash them. That would just be petty.

By the way in a few weeks, once that "new car smell" has worn off, have a look at her ratings. You'll see that there are plenty who like to listen to "that shit" as you call it. People will be listening, liking, and voting Democratic. That is a good thing. That is what helps win elections. Meanwhile I encourage you to listen to whatever floats your battleship. I will be.

[Woodstock]

127. That would be too constructive

Better to "whine" about a strong-minded Democrat rallying the troops, I guess. He's one who'd rather curse the darkness than light a candle. The Democratic party is a self-serve party. Nobody is going to hand him things on a silver platter.

[maddezmom]

115. running "them" off in droves?

Who? Nader supporters? :shrug:

[Woodstock]

124. Yes, I know you are defending Nader at every opp

That interview must been tough for you to listen to.

Speaking of your favorite word, whine, I agree, that's exactly what Ralphie was doing during the interview. Randi was giving him the hell he richly deserved.

[Bread and Circus]

77. Shit, I thought she was funny as hell.

[hiphopnation]

80. She's listening to the woman caller right now. n/t

[redqueen]

94. LOL

But supposedly this works and people like it.

Sad, isn't it?

[absyntheNsugar]

95. No offense but this is a New York thing

In New York people are cutting each other off all the time. Now you'll notice she has no problem when someone does this to her. That's just they way New Yorkers talk.

You get used to it after a while.

[Sterling]

130. No it's not a NY thing

We have some of the best conversations in the world in our neck of the woods. NYers are VERY smart. Please don't confuse us with people from Long Island or New Jersey.

I have not listened yet but reading these threads is starting to make me not want to.

[FlaGranny]

131. Sure it's New York - it's the opinionated

cab driver. It's the Italian brothers in the deli down the street. It's the union boss. It's people who know what they think and aren't afraid to say it. It's impatience and it's passion. Those things aren't NY?

[americanstranger]

133. That's it, slam Long Island.

We're all just dumb hicks out here who can't think or nothin'.

-as

[absyntheNsugar]

138. Look - Its not meant to deride NY

And once you get used to it its quite natural.

You'd be surprised how much time is wasted at the end of sentences...

[Name removed]

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[tishaLA]

107. Well, you know a post that begins with

"Holy freaking balls" is not going to raise the level of discourse. ;)

[bagimin]

100. Love Her

but i'm just a newbie....
help stop the FCC at http://www.neilrogers.com

[maddezmom]

109. welcome to DU, bocajon!

:hi:

[neverborn]

106. She's listening

To the American Dynasty guy a LOT.

[americanstranger]

128. Bottom Line -

When the first FreepTard calls in and she reduces him to a pile of smoldering dust, y'all will adore her.

It's what she does best, and AA ain't even seen it yet.

-as

[Justpat]

149. Exactly

She takes the most rabid dittoheads and reduces them to ashes.

[wellst0nev0ter]

129. How Can Anyone Get Their Message Across

and try to prove to people beyond the liberal base that they are right on the issues if they conform to some straitjacket standard of "respectibility" which only gives the other side more air time?

[MrSlayer]

135. I'm going to listen again but I didn't like her much yesterday.

Perhaps she'll grow on me.

[Gloria]

136. I thinks she's revved up because she can't smoke between breaks!!

I'm serious! She sounds very wound up...nerves maybe, but I bet it's the smoking. She's been saying that she can't smoke in the building and can't get to the street between breaks (bad elevators) and that she's chewing Nicorette! I heard her while she was still in Florida talking about the NYC no smoking rules.

I truly think this is part of her revved up style. That and also the new pace she's living at compared to when she was in FL.....

[shugah]

142. i heard her for the first time today

and when the nadar thing was going on, and she just jumped all over him (loudly) every time he tried to speak, i thought, "sheesh! she's just like a wingnut! she won't even let him speak!"

then randi said, "this isn't an interview! i am so angry at you!!!"

after that, i was cool with randi, and very much enjoyed the rest of her show.

here is a funny thing: bring up nader on DU, and you will have the most flame-ridden, most volatile, most abrasive rhetoric you can see on DU - and mostly it's people condemning nader for all that ... well, for all that randi was yelling about! - she was most assuredly not "whining!" she was yelling at ralph nader - possibly more gently than i've seen DUer's make noise about ol' ralph.

most democrat DUers would love to yell at nader. so this thread dissing randi really has me scratching my head.

[Loonman]

147. Female O'Reilly/Tweety Matthews

Definitely unneeded.

Hurting the liberal cause and her reputation.


Garafalo sounds like a high schooler.

Other than that, Franken is passable and Liz Winstead is alright.

[Kitsune]

148. I can't stand the way she shouts people down.

I listened to her first and second days, and good lord, she never shuts up, even when the caller agrees with her! She was immensely rude to Ralph Nader, and frankly I'm amazed it took him as long as he did for him to hang up.

[sangh0]

151. OMG!! A radio host who never shuts up!!!

How awful!


:crazy:

[Kitsune]

154. When it's a call-in show, yeah it is. *nt*

[DemNoir]

150. Stick with her

I have been listening to her for about a year and I would say that the first two shows she has done for Air America are the worst I have heard her do. For whatever reason she is more keyed-up than usual, I'm sure things will return to normal. But she has to snapping that gum on the air, it is annoying and disgusting.

As far as the Nader thing goes, she did not put him on to interview him. Her intention was only to scold him.

[NuttyFluffers]

152. thank you. i agree.

she was giving a piece of her mind, not some fireside chat. it's something a huge group of democrats were *dying* to do. and she did it. she nailed him asking what does he think he'll accomplish. and he just went back to his routine. enough routine, deal with reality. she's right, he's a luxury candidate - tough to take, but he is. and this time the stakes are so high that we can't afford it, as she said.

who here is willing to take up nader's argument that there is no difference between dems and repubs, especially after this administration. were you ever this pissed during clinton? i wasn't. many dems weren't. and that's what she's calling nader out on. his schtick is old and tired and incorrect and god help us if it costs us another 4 years of bush. if you disagree with that, fine, free speech. but that doesn't mean this view, shared by many other dems, is 'so beneath the liberal cause as to be unspeakable.'

for a group that promotes diversity it's strange how there's a strict castigation of any that has any fiery passion about their beliefs. if you find it's not soft enough, balanced enough, well there's other radio stations. but remember: equal time is no longer required by the FCC, thus the take over of the right-wing media. we gave an inch and they took a mile. obviously the "fireside chats" don't work in mass media america. gotta spice it up with diversity, and randi is this diversity we need.

[Cocoa]

153. she could have learned something about runoff voting

A caller wanted to talk about instant runoff voting, a very worthy topic for a liberal radio show. Randi clearly didn't know what instant runoff voting was, but instead of admitting her ignorance, and asking the caller to explain, she guessed wrongly that it was about black box voting machines.

Too bad, this was a missed opportunity to inform herself and her listeners about an important topic. Oh, well.