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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:47 PM
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spooky doublespeak from www.blackwatersecurity.com...
can you say "Black Ops?"



Blackwater Security Consulting is a strategic division of Blackwater USA. Blackwater USA has historically provided a spectrum of support to military, government agencies, law enforcement and civilian entities in training, targets and range operations as a solution provider. Blackwater Security Consulting has it roots in the Special Operations community and continues to sustain the skills that have been acquired over the years as effective tools that will support both national and commercial objectives. Our staff has a wealth of exceptional experience worldwide and is renowned for dealing with high-risk situations and complex operations. Our mission is to provide the client with veteran military, intelligence and law enforcement professionals with demonstrated field operations performance tempered with mature experience in both foreign and domestic requirements. We employ only the most highly motivated and professional operators, all drawn from various U.S. and international Special Operations Forces, Intelligence and Law Enforcement organizations. We focus on physical and personal security, personal security/risk and assessments, and training.
With a growing base of satisfied customers, we will continue to enhance our reputation of responsiveness, professionalism, and excellence. We stand ready to offer this exceptional and talented group of men and women to assist you in meeting organizational requirements.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:55 PM
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1. Interesting retirement job of delta force types?
"...a solution provider".

Gee, I wonder what the office xmas party is like?

Haloween..come as your favorite 3rd world dictator.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:56 PM
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2. Heh.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 06:58 PM
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3. A acquaintance that I work near
told me that some of these operators can make up to half a million dollars a year. I don't really want to get into his creds but does anyone have any other info on what one of these guys make or for that matter actually do. If they can make this much a year, who is paying them?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:01 PM
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4. WE are paying him...me...you...all the US taxpayers.
gin
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:04 PM
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6. i've seen posts here this week..
that say these guys get like $5-600 per day
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:02 PM
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5. i'll ask again
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 07:03 PM by Insider
with all that training, personal protection, special ops, commando, and more, how did they all die like sitting ducks? going through a known high-threat area (fallujah), what happened to intel, recon, defensive driving, rapid response, firepower, evasive action, etc.

i'm no expert, and of course wasn't there, but i don't understand how this went down. this can't be good if their claim to fame is protection.

edit for typo
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leanings Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:05 PM
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7. Anybody can have a bad day.
The best-trained operator in the world can get shot by a sniper he never knew was there. A well-layed ambush is almost impossible to survive. Them's the breaks.
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webtrainer Donating Member (265 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:09 PM
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8. another question . . .
why did the 8,000 Marines whose fortress is down the street from the location of the incident stay in lock-down and not leave their safe zone to try to save these "contractors"?

I think it's because they are freaked out with fear and don't want to die a horrible death like the blackwater "assets" did.

There's got to be much more to this story.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:12 PM
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10. 120,000 people in a sea of 24 million pissed off people
are sitting ducks by definition.

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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:19 PM
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11. blackwater might say different
it just isn't their plan (i'm fairly sure) to be sitting ducks in iraq. i guess they need to come home and cease selling services to protect others too. hopeless mission?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:25 PM
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12. I have a feeling these guys were not picked "at random" they
were probably known by the crowd, and most likely were perpertrators of some sort of attrocity or another in town.
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Insider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:34 PM
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13. singled out, known
i tend to agree, and haven't done my reading yet. but more questions:

did they attempt to defend themselves with any type of firearms? if not, why not?
was their vehicle custom security model? if not, why not?
did they have intel/recon/risk assessment for their travel?
where were they coming from?
where were they going?
did they have VIP protectee with them?

they were not just professionals, THEY TRAINED SECURITY & MILITARY FORCES in protection & security. what happened? a private company does not have to reveal, i guess. within u.s. authority, they should.

i'll cut this loose until i read up, but i want to know wtf happened.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 07:09 PM
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9. I have a friend that works
over there in Kuwait and he is ex-Special Forces and makes 400-500 per day SEVEN days a week. But the days can be 15 hours long.
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