Richard Clarke and "The Vulcans" Who are they???

[jean]

Our hero twice used the words "the vulcans" in his interview with Matthews on Hardball.

Does he mention The Vulcans in Against All Enemies - and who are they? Did they name themselves?

[RandomKoolzip]

1. All logic, no emotions.....Hmmm....

Kinda sounds like the OPPOSITE of the Bush regime, don't it? Certainly they don't act too logical, and "Iraq II: Electric Boogalloo" was really just a revenge war for daddy.....

[LiviaOlivia]

2. The PNACers

eom

[BlueEyedSon]

3. Here ya go

This core group, consisting of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Armitage, and Condoleezza Rice, has a long history together dating back 30 years in some cases. Dubbing themselves the Vulcans, they have largely determined the direction and focus of the Bush presidency. In this remarkably researched and fascinating book, Mann traces their careers and the development of their ideas in order to understand how and why American foreign policy got to where it is today.



http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0670032999/qid=1080866311/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-5196426-6206244?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

[LandOLincoln]

5. You'd think the artist would have given 'em pointy ears,

wouldn't you?

[jean]

6. excellent - thank you! One more book for the pile - but sarcasm aside...

it's fabulous we have a book on this topic.

Kevin Phillips (American Dynasty author) reminds us the recently teary-eyed Poppy Bush ascended to the presidency with NO biography ever having been written about him (save his own book printed for the campaign).

No one had done ANY investigative reporting on GHW Bush prior to his taking office.

Keep the books coming, people!

[Khephra]

4. Conservatives have weird nicknames for themselves

Wasn't the Anti-Clinton group known as Elves or something like that?

[peacetalksforall]

10. Elves....Ann Coulter, Michael Ishakoff, and lawyers who were in

Starr's law firm working together, crossing ethical legal boundaries, and using Drudge, Lucianne. But more specifically the elves were the lawyers who arranged the set-up to 'get' Clinton in a lie regarding the Jones testimony. A big no-no to be a member of the same law firm; they wiggled and squirmed and got away with it. It's all in the Conason and Lyons book - The Hunting of the Pesdident. Ann C admitted it on TV - there should also be links.

[ezee]

7. Vulcan's

does not appear in the index of the book that Clarke has written. I haven't finished reading the whole book yet.
I do remember Clarke speaking the term yesterday on Matthews show.

[jean]

8. yes - we heard it twice plus he said something like, "during the year

they were teaching him foreign policy..." referring to b*sh knowing nothing about the subject and implying he had to be schooled in it like the idiot he is.

[Bozita]

9. Is there a group photo with everybody wearing their codpieces?

Dress-up is important to these folks.

[jean]

11. As long as we're at it - here's a recent Vulcan article - sorry, no pics

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37769

Clarke's insights on
Bush's 'Vulcans'

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Posted: March 27, 2004
Now that you've watched the testimony of Richard Clarke – who was for 10 years the "counter-terrorism czar" in the White House – maybe you ought to re-read Nicholas Lemann's excellent article, "The Next World Order," in the April 1, 2002, issue of the New Yorker.

Thanks to Lemann, we already knew that the neo-crazies – who reportedly refer to themselves as "Vulcans" – have been hell-bent on establishing an American hegemony for at least the last decade. Now Clarke tells us their first step was to invade and occupy Iraq – and any excuse would do.


...

Then, September 11th dawned.

Here is how "Czar" Richard Clarke – left in charge that day – describes things in the White House the next morning:


I expected to go back to a round of meetings examining what the next attacks could be, what our vulnerabilities were, what we could do about them in the short term. Instead, I walked into a series of discussions about Iraq.
At first I was incredulous that we were talking about something other than getting al-Qaida. Then I realized with almost a sharp physical pain that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were going to try to take advantage of this national tragedy to promote their agenda about Iraq.