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Dying Eagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:01 PM
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We need to do whatever it takes to win
I don't care who is VP. As long as it helps us win. I don't care if Kerry runs the dirtiest campaign in Political history. I don't care if we use the pictures of the Bush Twins Drunk and f*cking everyone in sight. I don't care if we use the abbreviations of WMD and AWOL till the Repuke's ears bleed. I don't care if we find pictures of G.W giving a rim job to a goat.

I DON'T CARE!

WE CANT LOSE!

Lets pull no punches, let debate and turn everyone we know that is a Repuke. I am ready for a fight. Bring it On!
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:14 PM
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1. I am tot he point of not even looking at names anymore
As long as they are a Democrat They have my vote. Simple as that.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:09 PM
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6. Hi freetobegay!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:18 PM
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2. LOL! I understand your sentiment, but a lot of those things might backfire
Let's use some martial arts techniques and turn the opponent's attack back on himself.

We have chimpster by the short hairs on an issue that resonates with most people - TRUTHFULNESS.

The chimpster lies. The people around him lie. Their lies are pathetically easy to expose. Their response to being caught is not smart - they lie some more. People get disgusted with liars.

Our job in this campaign is to put the angel halo on Kerry's head. Then we need to start saying - loudly - that we expect nothing less than truthfulness and honesty from our elected leaders. We need to be relentless in our search for truth. Who can argue with this?

They will try to shut us up with, guess who, Clinton. We need to toss Clinton to the dogs on this one. Clinton lied, and we're mad about that. Yep, that was a bad thing when Clinton lied. Personally, I'm not speaking facetiously here. I was furious with Clinton. If he had resigned and let Al Gore take over, we wouldn't be in this pickle now, and we wouldn't have Pickles in the White House. That's water over the dam, but we can use it now for our advantage.

We're mad as hell about politicians who lie and we won't take it anymore! Bush is lying! He gets the boot!

This issue resonates quite strongly with Bush's largest voting bloc - the Christian right-wing. If we relentlessly expose Chimpy's lies - which we ought to do anyway since he's destroying the country - then many of his Christian supporters will turn from him in sorrow and disgust.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:35 PM
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4. You're right of course about the lying
the problem is, WE'RE NOT CALLING HIM ON IT NEARLY ENOUGH!
The average person in the US is still torn because we haven't tried to really hold the twerp-in-chief to his statements. We need to do it LOUDLY, NOW!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:32 PM
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3. Thank you! Yes! That is exactly what we need to do!
We have a country that is becoming openly fascist now. (http://www.foundation.bw/IsAmericaFascist.htm, and there are many more, just do a google search and you'll see, also look at this http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/platform.htm) We have an administration that lies continually about everything, meddles all around the world, acts the worst kind of schoolyard bully, and more and more people not only don't care, they SUPPORT it! They WANT the US to attack nations for no reason and kill everyone!
Look at the Freeper rhetoric. It could almost be copied directly from John Birch Society propaganda in the 1960's. At that time they were considered a minority crackpot group full of deranged schizophrenics. Now it seems their ideas are the mainstream.
How do you look at the average Freeper without feeling embarrassed for your country? These people are not patriots. They treat the constitution as if it were toilet paper. They claim to idolize Washington and Jefferson, but Washington and Jefferson would spit in their faces.
We need to stop the fascist takeover of the US and the freeperization of the average citizen. Period. We WILL end up like Germany and Italy after WWII if we don't, and we will go thorugh all the horrors that those countries went through as well. sometimes I think the average citizen simply won't see what's going on until after it's too late.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 12:48 PM
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5. COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY AGREED.
Agreed. Agreed. AGREED!

Gloves off. Or, actually, maybe no. Gloves ON. To conceal the brass knuckles.

Let us INDEED pull no punches.

Besides, while there are those of us willing to fight dirty, there will be plenty of others, equally stalwart, who will use different tactics - maybe a little more subtle or polite or less confrontational. But it requires ALL KINDS OF STRATEGIES AND TACTICS. The gentlemen warriors and gentlewomen warriors can do it their way. We street fighters can do it our way. We'll all meet up at a very nice finish line.

Hardball or softball, what's crucial is - JUST AS LONG AS SOMEBODY DOES IT, SOME WAY!

The point is - to fight. How? To what degree? With what kind of ammo or attack plan? Doesn't matter. The fight itself is what's important.
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