Biden: Bush would have thrown his body in front of the planes

[dennis4868]

Biden said this to Al Franken today. He was refering to the 911 planes.....WTF? How does he know this? He is a Bush apologist! Bush skips out of vietnam but Biden says that Bush would have given his life to prevent 911? Does not make sense.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. I did not hear this! Do have an audio link? Maybe he needs....

to be REMINDED of the truth!!!

:puke:

[dennis4868]

7. it was....

on air america radio today.

[mmonk]

2. He may would

but be that as it may, Biden was for the conquest of Iraq.

[vi5]

3. I heard that too...nearly choked on my slurpee....

I was coming back to work from lunch and heard that line. I couldn't believe that he would say it with a straight face. I thought the same thing about the Vietnam connection.

[KissMyAsscroft]

4. Why is this surprising?

Biden is a blow dried DINO.

[outinforce]

15. Joe Biden does NOT Deserve

Joe Biden does NOT deserve to be called a DINO.

imho.

[MurrayDelph]

21. not a DINO

just a self-important blowhard who has way too much
comfort in his own (imagined) cleverness.

I have always likened him to the Senator Jar-Jar Binks.

[outinforce]

28. Well, If THAT Is the Criterion...

Well, if this is the criterion: "a self-important blowhard who has way too much comfort in his own (imagined) cleverness.", then my guess is that the entire Senate (and I do mean the entire United States Senate) pretty much meets it.

imho

[KamaAina]

54. not blow-dried either

Those are hair plugs, my friend. The man has been likened to a human Chia Pet.

When he ran for President a few cycles back, I called him the "Plugs 'n' Plagiarism" candidate. :-)

[formernaderite]

31. You're right not a DINO...just a long term politician....

....in my other life I worked in DC with politicos. These guys are all good friends after hours. Even when they sound upset, they're only upset for the cameras. It's a sad condition of what they call DC's number one sport: Politics.

I favor term limits because it dissuades them from political entrenchment.

People forget how cozy Scalia and Ginsburg are off the court...the two married couples are extremely good friends.

[outinforce]

33. What's So Wrong With People

who disagree with one another on policy or on legal issues being friends with one another?

I would much rather have that sort of situation that the sort that exists in many other countries of the world, when people with different points of view on matters of law or policy actually hate each other.

Because hatred leads to violence.....At least, I think it does.

[camero]

46. What's wrong with it?

They start slicing the economic pie amongst themselves and noone speaks for the people. Which is precisely what is happening now.

[formernaderite]

65. It's really the pandering to the voters I object to....

...the bullshit fire in the belly speeches that mean little. Sure they should be friends....but then the stunts of anger in front of the camera should be toned down and they should work things out. What I'm saying is, I've seen some of these people joke around in the evening about matters that are important to citizens. It's their on air performances I object to. It also makes people as you can see from posts on DU believe the cause is worthy of strong emotions. I'm stating that they are plying their emotions for the camera and to buy votes with their constituency. Sorry if I sound cynical, I left DC 7 years ago to become a contractor....because I felt too passionate about the issues and couldn't take it anymore.

[kiahzero]

73. Term limits are a bad idea

Experienced pols are a good thing. Part of the reason California is having economic problems is that no one in the legislature knows what the hell they're doing - you finally get the hang of things, and then you are forcibly kept from office.

[IronLionZion]

85. why can't they be friends?

Some of my friends are very right-wing but politics isn't the only thing people talk about. I have no problem hanging out with people who have radically different political ideas.

[Catherine Vincent]

5. Oh Please!

[spotbird]

6. He was on something last night just spewing nonsense about

how the war had nothing to do with anything but the stated reasons, WMD etc. Really pumping Bush up, then they had the Republican on who said the same thing, it was laughable.

Biden is more likely to flip to R then McCain is to D.

[montanacowboy]

8. I heard this and almost puked

Why didnt Franken call him on this??? the two JOES are spokesman we DON'T NEED - Franken has to be up on stuff like this and challenge this screwball - he has had too many hair plugs and his brain is swiss cheese.

[dennis4868]

13. What I dont get....

is that Bush has never done anything since he has been in the WH to prove that he deserves the benefit of the doubt on anything...why does Biden give him the benefit of the doubt by saying all this crap....he keeps saying Bush is a good guy. WTF?

[ladjf]

35. Al is a comedian.

Face it. Al F. is a comedian, no more, no less. We need people with astute political acumen to be our spokespeople on Air America.

[readmylips]

9. bush would have thrown his body in front of the TOY planes....

like plastic GI joe.

[balanced]

84. By any other name

Bush played the probabilities. He chose a path, National Guard, which was least likely to lead him into battle--to put him in harm's way. Some would call this being a chickenshit. I am not a name caller. Ergo, I would simply say that Bush chose the path that was least likely to lead him into ballte--to put him in harm's way.

[Rockholm]

10. Wish He Had...

[NewYorkerfromMass]

77. True. We could wish.

But the planes still would have crashed into their targets... so Biden's comment is non-sensical (among other things).

[TNOE]

11. Getting Out of Harm's Way - the Bush* Doctrine

Isn't that why he cut and run on 9/11??????

[Karenina]

23. Anybody got a link to him saying that?

I recall the comment :puke: and can't remember if it was video or print.
I DO remember getting nauseous. :puke: :puke: :puke:

[TNOE]

34. Here you Go:

http://www.rense.com/general25/bushfled.htm

President Bush spoke publicly for the first time Tuesday about his fears for himself and his family in the hours after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling a German television reporter he was "trying to get out of harm's way" before returning to the White House.

In an interview with ARD German Television, Bush said that...

Bush's initial conduct on Sept. 11 came under scrutiny because he did not immediately return to Washington. When the first airliner crashed into the World Trade Center, he was in Sarasota, Fla., to speak on education reform.

Bush and his entourage flew to two highly secure Air Force bases--one in Louisiana, the other in Nebraska--before arriving in Washington that evening.

"I mean, I was trying to get out of harm's way," Bush said.

"We were concerned about threats on the president. We were worried about future attacks, and there's a lot of belief that Flight 93 was headed to the White House," Bush added, referring to the hijacked commercial airliner that crashed in western Pennsylvania.

[Karenina]

55. Danke Dir!

PROSIT! :toast:

[k in IA]

12. Oh come on people. I think * is a total disaster for the country and

the world but he didn't want 3,000 people to be killed. He was incompetent and negligent and disengaged, etc. etc.

Now Iraq is a different story - He owns that one. He is completely responsible for everyone killed, the world turning on us and creating thousands of more terrorists.

[leesa]

16. How do you know that. I doubt he could care less how many people

died. You have a lot of reading to catch up on to learn how very involved the Bush Crime Family was in the occurrence of 9-11. There are many thousands of resources available. Get reading! Bush is a soulless monster.

[Minstrel Boy]

24. one word:

"Trifecta."

Between that joke, the mocking of Karla Faye and his "No weapons here" routine, how can you say he has a single empathetic bone in his brush-clearing, pretzel-bruising body?

[Crunchy Frog]

29. Oh come on!

9/11 is the greatest thing to happen to Bush politically in his entire political career. It caused his tepid approval ratings to go through the roof. It gave his neocon regime all the excuse they needed to enact their whole foreign policy agenda and attack civil liberties in this country.

He's been milking it for all it's worth ever since, as an excuse for everything, and a coverup of his failures.

Whether he deliberately allowed it to happen, or was simply incompetent, and used the opportunity to boost himself politically, you can't deny that he benefited tremendously from it.

You also can't deny that he has never displayed an ounce of courage, or willingness to engage in self sacrifice in his entire life.

As for his having any kind of respect for human life, he certainly doesn't seem to give a damn about the thousands of Iraqis that have gotten killed in his war, or the more than 600 US soldiers that have died there.

Death in the service of political expediency means absolutely nothing to *.

[k in IA]

37. I agree with everything you said.

[SemperEadem]

39. wow, you need to get up to speed on *

If it meant that he could force his and Cheney's agendas onto the American public more easily by wounding Americans' resolved through an attack on its own soil, then that was the course he was going to take.

It is hard to fathom someone who has taken an oath to protect and uphold the office of the presidency turning on his own people for personal profit and gain, but just because you can't imagine it happening doesn't mean it can't happen.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

62. Bull. He didn't care how many people were killed on 911...

...as long as the American people bought the idea that "terrorists" had done the job.

After all, the PNACers had already stated in 1999 that they needed another Pearl Harbor to "galvanize" the American people in support of their plans for global domination.

[ldf]

71. ends justifies the means

the republicans, all of them, have taken into their heart the ends justifies the means. and yes, all of them, since those remaining so-called "good" republicans haven't done a damn thing about taking back their party.

the ends justifies the means.....

that means stealing an election
that means stealing americans rights and freedoms through various bills
that means setting up the most intrusive govt. we have ever had
that means getting the oil, for self gain and payback to cronies
that means stealing a governorship (calif.)
that means changing our form of govenment to a theocracy
that even means being complicit in sept. 11, because without that incident, shsortly after stealing the election, none of the rest would be possible.

bush would go along with anything that helps to bring about his (and pnac's) goals.

if not, he would have reacted differently on sept. 11.

[DoYouEverWonder]

14. A guy who no longer allows his feet to touch the dirt

isn't throwing himself in front of anything.

If Bu$h was such a great hero, then why did he sit there for over 20 minutes? What the hell is Biden fantasizing about, we all know Bu$h did nothing?

[Oilwellian]

17. I wonder about Biden

I have a feeling he'd like the investigation of 911 to just go away. He's one of the politicians that was schmoozing with Pakistan's ISI leader, General Ahmed on the morning of 911. You may recall, General Ahmed was exposed for wiring Atta $100 grand just weeks before 911 and was allowed to "quietly resign" after the FBI confirmed it. There's more than meets the eye where Biden's concerned.

[robbedvoter]

18. The plane to Nebraska?

I couldn't believe my ears - came in the middle - didn't know who he was - it made sense when i found out. The "Please don't hit me if i talk back" democrat. :puke:

[Old and In the Way]

19. Joe's been a willing supporter of our Iraq occupation.

Sadly, I wonder if he is criminally compromised by this administration?

[PROGRESSIVE1]

22. Biden might as well be a criminal! He gone along with the....

ILLEGAL actions of this Mis-Administration.

[SnohoDem]

20. Relax,

Sen. Biden misspoke. He meant to say,
"The president would have thrown my body in front of those planes."

[Canuckistanian]

25. The only thing * ever threw himself in front of

Was a suitcase full of cash thrown by one of his daddy's friends.

[smirkymonkey]

82. LOL!! That and an

open bar of top-shelf liquor! Does Biden actually think that anyone is going to buy that crap?

Chimpy is a coward, a liar, and has never put the welfare of others before his own selfish interests in his much too long, PATHETIC life!
WTF is Biden smoking?

[scarface2004]

26. he would have pushed his mother..

in front of them, then laura, then his daughters!! he hides behind skirts, ask kindasleazy and karen 'the bull' huge!

[Minstrel Boy]

27. Remember Martin Sheen in Dead Zone, using the baby as a shield?

That's Gee Dubya.

[direwolf]

52. Good grief

Biden, I wonder how all of those people *cough* he served with in the TANG feel about that statement? I'm guessing we won't hear them weighing in on this subject either.

Sounds more like something Mighty Mouse would do...

[smirkymonkey]

83. Welcome to DU, direwolf!!

:hi:

[robbedvoter]

30. I posted the appropriate response on Franken's forum

http://www.alfrankenweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=115279#115279

[Crunchy Frog]

32. I have to admit that I have always

thought of Joe Biden as a crass opportunist and a phony, ever since he got caught in a plagiarism scandal when he was trying to run for president.

He seems to be working on enhancing that reputation.

[maggrwaggr]

38. would you buy a used waterbed from Joe Biden?

he's a scumbag. Take one look at the guy, he's a creep. I can smell the cologne from 2,000 miles away

[outinforce]

40. You Are Able To

judge a person's character by what s/he looks like??

Man, I wish I could do that!

[maggrwaggr]

45. it's a combination of things

but if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck ...

[SemperEadem]

36. someone needs to make Biden drop in a cup

check out what drugs he's been ingesting.

[mzmolly]

41. Sure he'd have thrown his body, but he refused to have more than ONE

meeting? :eyes:

[Cocoa]

42. no need to have Biden on Air America

he's already all over the Sunday morning shows, Air America should be reserved for people like Henry Waxman.

[hatrack]

43. Yeah, he tried to do just that in Lousiana and later in Nebraska . . .

. . . but the terrorists never flew there.

[BurtWorm]

44. Someone convinced him it wouldn't look good if he tried to kill himself

[Homer12]

47. Don't you see the Joke

It points at Bush's stupidity.

I think the plane would still be flying.


Gravity on humans has an effect from sky to ground.

[Lorien]

48. Instead, he bravely RAN AWAY

after listening to a story about a girl and her pet goat while Tower 1 burned...:grr:

[SnohoDem]

74. Brave Sir Shrubbie

Brave Sir Shrubbie ran away,
Bravely ran away, away.
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Shrubbie turned about
And gallantly, he chickened out. Bravely taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat,
Bravest of the brave, Sir Shrubbie.


(Apologies to Monty Python)

[randr]

49. Did * think the next attack was in Nebraska?

Apparently Biden thinks so. Does he know something we do not know yet?
Did a hijacked plane crash in Nebraska and we are just now being told? Who told Biden?
We should all email Biden and demand answers!

[Ysabel]

50. i think i get it...

biden is a comedian now too...

[TankLV]

51. Ummm - wasn't yesterday April 1st?

Maybe this was a joke?

If not: Biden is a repuke toejam sucking scumbag. I don't pay attention to anything he says anymore.

If it IS a joke - NEVERMIND!

[LittleApple81]

53. I heard him saying it; I have seen him in action in Congress; it fits

with his general attitude... A few more months and he will be a new Zell Miller with more sophistication: he occasionally says something democratic and then BAM! another pro-Bush* statement.

[KansDem]

56. Yeah, well, maybe if Bush were drunk and stumbled...

...he might fall in front of the planes, but I wouldn't call that "throwing his body."

[The Night Owl]

57. What an asshole.

Are Biden's hairplugs sucking the blood out of his brain? We need to email that jackass and tell him to shut the hell up.

[guitar man]

58. How far is this from reality?

I thought he hid behind school children then jumped in his " 'fraidy hole" in Nebraska.

[theHandpuppet]

59. If only he had thrown his bunnypants codpiece...

... at our shores that would surely have repelled everyone.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

60. Biden is a NeoCon, just like Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman.

[Eric J in MN]

64. Exactly. We shouldn't expect too much from a rightwing Democrat. (nt)

nt

[fob]

61. If I would have known I would do the same thing.

Thrown shrub in front of the planes.

NOTE - This is SATIRE

[Lisa]

63. how about throwing his EGO in front of the planes?

Or his sense of entitlement?

Either of them would be big enough to shield New York, Boston, and D.C. -- say, that's what might work instead of that proposed missile shield!

[demgrrrll]

66. Biden certainly is omnipresent in the media isn't he. This guy would

go to the opening of an envelope for air time. Such a loser.

[The Night Owl]

75. One thing is for certain...

Biden throws himself in front of every camera he gets near.

[Cat Atomic]

67. Huh? He wouldn't even put his ass in the White House AFTER

the attacks.

Biden is an ass clown. He needs to go. He and Leiberman can go fishing or something.

[Warren Stuart]

68. He made that remark as a setup to slam Bush

CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT

When he made the comment they were discussing the Administrations obsession on National Missile Defense, and how they ignored the Terrorist threat. Biden was trying to make the point that Bush would have taken extreme measures to prevent the attack, but his own stupidity and incompetence were in large part to blame.

It was a good interview and Biden pretty much raked Bush over the coals. Y'all got a problem with that?

[bacchant]

69. Yeah, I do

it's all good to point out Bush's incompetence, but not at the expense of the truth of Bush's character. Being a LIHOPer leaning more toward MIHOP every day, I will never believe that coward would have lifted a finger to stop his good fortune. This administration is both incompetent AND evil.

[Warren Stuart]

72. You're not going to win many arguements with this approach

You may be right, I'm not disputing a thing. My problem is; I want us to win. We've fought and lost the good fight. If we lose the next round then we can kiss our freedom and liberties goodby.

What does it take to win? Well for starters, consider what it will take to lose. Challenging the population with charges such as LIHOP or MIHOP without solid evidence to back it up is a good start. Vicously attacking Democrats because they are not sufficiently toeing the line is another surefire recipe for failure.

What is needed can be taken right out of the Republicans playbook. Keep it simple, stay on message, stay united. The truth is the most powerful weapon the Democrats have, if they wield it wisely.

[bacchant]

76. Ok, some good points but

what exactly is the truth? Should I assume Joe Biden has the real dope? Somehow I don't think so. Your point is well taken though, the ultimate goal can only be achieved through unity.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

78. You sound like you're repeating the gameplan from the 2000 election...

...be nicey-nice and please don't upset anyone.

Look where that got us.

If the majority of Democrats don't start growing backbones, we'll be in the same position following the 2004 elections. When all else fails you have to stand up to the schoolyard bully or be treated as a red-haired bastard stepchild for the rest of your life.

[DemLikr]

79. Exactly, Media. Thanks for the wisdom. n/t

[bacchant]

81. ...

[MoonRiver]

70. * ran like a dog with his tail between his legs

at the first opportunity. I hate Biden. He's a Zell wannabe.

[Zomby Woof]

80. what do you expect of a plagiarist?

[Junkdrawer]

86. Interesting that Joe feels the need to make that statement, huh? n/t

[LeahMira]

87. Actually...

I think Joe Biden just can't bring himself to believe that Bush is as bad as Bush is.

A lot of people have that problem. They simply can't imagine that anyone could possibly let American citizens be killed for any reason.

It's sad and hard, but whether we like to admit it or not, there really are monsters. We didn't get rid of the last of them when Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot died, and the monsters aren't always from some other country.

The only other possibility would be that Bush is incredibly stupid and totally incompetent. That's a real possibility too, but now that the information has come out about his single-minded focus on Iraq even before 9/11, I don't think stupidity is an excuse any more.