Goodbye America, it's too bad I won't be seeing you anymore :(

[Fear]

U.S. Extends Fingerprinting Rule to Millions More Visitors

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/02/politics/02CND-TRAV.html?ex=1081573200&en=673fa03caad258a2&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

The time has arrived, I do not think I will be visiting the US any day soon anymore. I guess my friends will just have to come over to Europe. I have no record, yet I refuse to allow others treating me as a criminal.


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Mr. Hutchinson said the procedures are quick and unobtrusive and have helped Homeland Security and State Department officials intercept more than 200 people suspected of criminal or immigration violations. The people have included convicted rapists, drug traffickers and individuals convicted of credit-card fraud, he said.
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It's obvious the REAL criminals (ENRON etc. etc.) are going to be caught now too right??????????

Cheers US people, Love you all, hate your government and law system.

[Renew Deal]

1. Where are you from?

[Fear]

16. Netherlands

[Fear]

26. why?

[Renew Deal]

27. Just wondering.

I can't believe they are targeting parts of Europe, esspecially the friendly ones like the Netherlands.

[Fear]

29. well, we're full of BAD people too you know

but then again, everyone can become a BAD person anywayz if you manage to hit the right strings.........

[Fear]

30. just *sighing* @ it all, hoping my country won't go to far

Business is so much tied into everything, I hope the US won't be sucking europe and other countries to far in this crazyness and self-destructive behavior for the purpose of totall control

[Fear]

2. http://news.google.com/news/en/us/nation.html

http://news.google.com/news/en/us/nation.html

or

check under the header:
US to Extend Fingerprinting to Europeans, Japanese (Update1)

[Xtal]

3. well....

im moving to Europe if Bush gets re-elected anyway.
no joke...im making plans as i type

[Fear]

4. We welcome the good guys ;)

Well good for you, allthough there was someone that said once that it's your job too to clean up the mess and start the riot. It's your country, lots has gone bad, but the foundation is the people.

[Not Me]

25. I am not sure you realize

just how awful a second term would be.

[Fear]

31. Yes I realize.......it will be devastating for the world

So this should be anyone's concern for the safety of us all.

[NuttyFluffers]

5. cool, thinking of japan

meet ya in europe on vacation.

gotta get my passport ASAP before i can't leave. you should too.

[Vickers]

6. Eh, so what. I had to get a fingerprint card made for my CCW...

...application, which I put in the mail today.

Should have it back within 90 days.

[redqueen]

7. What's CCW? n/t

[Vickers]

8. Carry Concealed Weapon permit

I'm one of those Dems who likes all of the Bill of Rights.

:)

edit: subject/verb agreement

:P

[redqueen]

10. D'oh!

Well I think it's a good idea then!

But for food stamps? What say you about that?

[Vickers]

12. You have to give a thumbprint for food stamps?

Hell, if I can get some chow for giving a thumbprint, I'll do it!

Dang, now I'm hungry.

:(

[redqueen]

15. Yep, in TX

I think it's just another way to try to keep people from getting the help they need.

TX spends close to the LEAST amount per capita in aid to needy families. Them thar's sum jin-yoo-ine famlee valyoos!

[Vickers]

18. Are they using minor infractions to deny aid?

Man, that, my friends, is compassionate (sic) conservatism in a nutshell.

:eyes:

[redqueen]

22. Doubt it

It's more than likely just to intimidate them into not even applying.

:(

[GOPisEvil]

24. It's the forefinger of each hand, but yeah...

...we capture fingerprint images and compare them to prevent dual participation. In theory.

Yes, it's intimidating and expensive. We should knock the program off.

[Fear]

28. trust me, more is to come

In our airports (netherlands), I've seen the irisscanners sitting there (unused till now), wonder why they are having these right now..........................................wonder who advised us?????????...yes I'm pissed @ the fact that they are THERE (this is madness)

[Fear]

14. so when they decide.......

.....that it's too dangerous for people to have a gun - they can track you down ....... or stop you at the border :D
Enjoy

[Vickers]

20. Here's the funny part: in FL, you don't have to register a gun

It's true! You can have bushels of 'em all over the house, and they don't have to be registered.

:crazy:

Only a small percentage of folks have a CCW...as for folks who have guns, well, there's simply no way to even determine that.

[seabeyond]

9. i have a 46 dollar warrant

for a speeding ticket that got lost four years ago and have paid twice on. i too dont need to visit our airport at 42 on the way to florida for family vacation with two little kids and hubby and be arrested cause i am a big bad criminal.

we're f*cked. i am stuck with this system from the inside.

ya ya ya, will pay it sometime. just almost challenging a cop being stupid enough throwing me to ground arresting me and taking children away over a 46 dollar warrant four years old i have paid on twice

[Iceburg]

11. Dam - No change in status forn CDNs entering US

... who may enter the United States without passports.
I'll have to use my "real" reasons for not entering -- disgust with election tampering in 2000, illegitimate wars, aversion to the death penalty, religious fanatics, gay bashing, ....
But I would gladly welcome the many good and courageous true Americans into my home -- without a strip search :)

[democrat_patriot]

13. Moving out

if the chimp gets re-elected. Have discussed this with wife (she's from England) she's all for it!

[Iceburg]

17. Where to? Back to Blairland?

[Fear]

19. good point there ;)

Perhaps it's just time for us all to put an end to this madness once and for all and show that we the people rule the countries we live in *peacefully*, but in a proper manner they can understand :)

[Iceburg]

21. Goodluck ... and I say that with all sincerity

We (Beavers and Bear of the Northern Hinterland) are doing all we can (within the legal boundaries) to ensure a Kerry victory.

[redqueen]

23. Civil Disobedience!

Right on!

Palestinians are fighting (heh) over doing this now!

Could it be that the worm is finally turning?! :D

[democrat_patriot]

32. I'll at least be

with her family. Very anti-bu#h. Mine think he's God's gift. Makes for very entertaining family get-togethers.

[bearfartinthewoods]

39. england is instituting a new id card system very soon

i think i read it will be fingerprint as well.

[camero]

33. Had to be fingerprinted: TO CASH A $9 CHECK!

Told the teller I felt like I was in the Soviet Union.

[Fear]

34. scratch the plate with your finger

Here's an idea, put something sharp on your nail, or if it's sharp already, don't bother, and scratch it up every time you finger print :), if the whole nation would start doing that! - that would be GREAT :D

[camero]

35. I can use my lancet for that

It's just the fact I had to get fingerprinted for something as stupid as that. I bet Kenny-boy doesn't have to get fingerprinted for his million dollar checks.

[Fear]

36. yup, you're right on that one......

just trying to frustrate the system

[laruemtt]

37. hubby and i have passports ready

he's said depending on what happens in november, we might be needing them. very unlike him to say something like that. he's from jamaica and we might end up living in the islands. oh well, somebody's got to do it.....

[xchrom]

38. yeah -- it's depressing

i come to europe once a year for a month or so just so i can feel what it's like. and i have been super regular about this since bush was elected.
reagan scared the hell out of me -- this guy is much scarier.

[Logansquare]

40. I have a friend who has dual S. African/U.S. citizenship

He and his wife just had a baby, but he told his elderly mother to not even try to visit. Apparently getting a visa is such an ordeal, with people being grilled to the point of insanity by the U.S. consulate that she would be required to stand in a line for hours. An old woman--very dangerous you know.