Will Fallujah become a bloodbath ?

[number6]

when "we" go in to take control, pacify, punish those..etc
what ya think will happen ???

[LittleApple81]

1. Unfortunately, I think so. This war is a quagmire, a tar-baby that

corrupts both sides.

[JanMichael]

2. I bet the BEST way to piss off all Iraqis is to go on a killing spree...

...in Falluja.

It's just bad policy.

[ConcernedCanuk]

3. "Will Fallujah become a bloodbath ?" - - If the Military goes back in

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Count on it.

(sigh)

[Mattforclark]

4. We shall pacify Germania

- Augustus

[MSgt213]

5. Let's put it like this. We have to go in there and put a solider or

Marine on every corner. Put the people on lock down and retrieve all the weapons that we can. Constant patroling and may be and identification system so that people who don't live in the city can't come into it without the military's knownledge. House to house searches will have to be conducted. In other words martial law.

If we had done this in the first place by having enough troops there to conduct this type of occupation of hot spots we would be in a much better position. The problem now with clamping down is that the people in the city will resent this type of heavy handed operation. That's our fault and now we have to deal with it. If we go in and don't stay we will for sure be in trouble.

[Mattforclark]

6. 4000 Marines are not enough to fully

"dominate" a city of 200,000. 50 to 1 is better than in the rest of Iraq, but I still don't like the odds.

[number6]

7. thats a big job, do we have enough troops ...

General Shenseki said we needed 300,000 troops to effectively
occupy Iraq ...

I imagine there's a lot of corners ..

[rfkrocks]

11. Can't do it

Name one power that defeated a guerrilla insurgency with the support of a strong part of the population-that city has 250,000 people-we have 100,000 troops in country-our army is burned out-1/3 of the country hates us and the shia are close behind- 6/30 is a couple of months away and there is no plan that is cohesive-we broke Humpty-Dumpty and we can't put it together again. BTW we just spent our country into future social instability-we need to get out now because no more American lives will make it better-we have to beg the UN-it is the only hope we have

[MSgt213]

19. Your absolutely right what I'm suggesting is impossible with our present

force level. That's why it's an impossible job because this is just like you and I trying to catch a tiger by the tail. What the hell happens after we catch him.

[rfkrocks]

21. well put!

I can't see where this is going except badly-what a blunder and the rest of the good ole usa is along for the ride Bushco started us on

[MrSlayer]

8. I think it was a setup so we can bomb them.

I'm thinking that Fallujah is a real sore spot for the "coalition" forces. That's where the Saddam supporting Sunni's live and they obviously aren't complying with our efforts to "liberate" them. Since victory was declared by The Chimp last year they can't bomb anyone without good reason so I think the mercs were sacrificed in order to give them a reason. If there was no "atrocity" they couldn't do it. And now they have the opportunity to wipe out a fierce pocket of resistance without anyone here really caring and world opinion will be less critical. My guess is that things like we saw the other day happen a lot but it was convenient for them to show it now. Does anyone else think this or am I reaching for shit?

[anarchy1999]

9. I have been saying it since the first week of the occupation of Fallujah.

When our troops fired into protesters wanting the troops to leave the school so that their kids could go to school. For almost two months this town was okay, glad to see Saddam gone and hoping the Americans would do what they had promised to do, liberate them. The day of this riot and massacre in May of 2003, I told my husband there would be no peace, especially in Fallujah. Put yourself in their place. What would you do? How would you feel if a neighbor, a friend, a brother, a mother or worst or all a young niece or nephew or son or daughter had been killed our wounded that day?

And then just read up on what has happened there since. It breaks my heart. I have to say, if I were a resident of that town I would not like Americans at all.

[leftofthedial]

10. the whole country will become a bloodbath

whether we are there or not

get the military PUT now.

[nostamj]

12. "become" ???

the question is: how big a BLOODBATH will Fallujuah become?

[anarchy1999]

13. It hurts to even contemplate or consider.

The only thing we should be doing right now is calling every member of Congress there is to stop what they are about to do. Did you see Armitage on CNN talking about the retribution to come this afternoon. It sent chills throughout my soul. I fear for every person there.

[Fovea]

14. Fallujah will start the next level of Vietnamization

I suspect the equivalent of strategic hamlets will be our response, after a discreetly sized massacre.

[daa]

15. Yes it will

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[NoPasaran]

16. A Marine on every streetcorner?

Download this map: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/fallujah-map.htm
A lot of streetcorners there.

[MSgt213]

20. I know it's a lot street corners, but it's also a lot of houses a lot of

approaches and ways into the city. Look, controling a population in a city that size requires a population that wants to be control.
They have to want law and order or you have to enforce it. One of the other has to happen. Right now the people their have proven they don't want it. You can send 4,000 Marines in to carry out one operation that's it. That can't guard and search at the same time in a city that size. The answer is we need more troops or we ain't going to control shit.

[kentuck]

17. The Iraqis are too smart to try and take on the US military head on....

...they will disperse and strike elsewhere. They learned that in Gulf War I...

[spanone]

18. I'm sure w* wants an eye for an eye.........

[Ilsa]

22. They are planning for a bloodbath.

Yep, a giant tarbaby, as so eloquently stated. Marines, grids, door-to-door blasting through.

[Bride of Cthulhu]

23. unfortunately it already has

and will only get worse.

[pinniped]

24. They will probably reign fire from the skies...

More indiscriminate killing.

Oops, we bombed the wrong target but we did see 5 of them so-called insurgents running in that direction.

[daleo]

25. Aerial bombardment

It will be a mini Shock and Awe. It won't work but it will kill plenty.