Some Americans consider move over fear of fascism

[DaveSZ]

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18303


I'm sad to learn that I'd have to have a 4 year degree before being considered for Canadian citizenship. Maybe I could transfer to Uni there if Bush gets in again. I don't want to live in a fascist one party state.


On another note, it bothers me that Kerry voted for the Patriot Act.

What is he going to do to change it? :spank:

[JaySherman]

1. If Bush* steals the election again...

I will very seriously consider staying in Japan permanently. Not that I really want to, but I don't want to live under fascism either.

[DaveSZ]

2. I love this country

That's why it hurts me so much to even consider having to move.

If Bush wins another term, we will continue to see an erosion of our basic freedoms.

[JaySherman]

4. I love it too

And living in another country has made me appreciate the good things about it, but it's also convinced me even more of its problems. It ould be so much better than it is. If I come back, I've been thinking of becoming active in political campaigns, but honestly, if *Bush wins I don't know if I have that kind of fight in me.

[sweetheart]

17. I feel similarly

The thought of going back to the US, is like, (for me) the film
the deer hunter, and how the hero goes back to vietnam to save his
friend... risking his life in that den of insanity... just... what
is there to save?... a polluted river?

[Shoedogg]

3. I'm not going anywhere...

They can't scare me off!

They're going to have to deal with me.

I urge anyone considering leaving to stay and fight.

It IS a country worth fighting for, don't you think?

[Guaranteed]

5. It's the people that make a country- not the land.

The culture, and people, of this country have become spoiled, ignorant and cruel- why fight them just so that you can stay around them? Let them stew in their own disgusting philosophy and destroy themselves. There's no need to go down with them. There are plenty of excellent, healthy democracies around the world (thanks to the seeds planted by America long ago). Why not live in one of them?

The only thing that's worth sticking around for is friends and family- but just take them with you.

Our country began rotting somewhere along the line, and it's going to have to decay, and be reborn. The culture has become too messed up to fix. It's falling apart, like Rome. That's alright, though- seriously. It's just the way nature works.

Death and rebirth, death and rebirth. Things will end up alright, ultimately.

[Nay]

6. I'm with you, Loony. The people make the country, and these

people here are scaring the shit out of me, and admittedly, they really disgust me sometimes. Spoiled, ignorant, cruel -- exactly what I think as well. It's horrifying.

[bacchant]

8. Yeah, suddenly a whole lot of us

feel like strangers in a strange land. I'm starting to wonder if the USA has had it's day.

[Shoedogg]

11. Well then...

I shall be here for the rebirth.

I'll stay and fight until my last breath.

[peacetalksforall]

7. I've often wished we could have a no-blood civil war - I'd rather not

have to contend with facism and secretive imperialistic fundamentalism of religion and domination of any kind.

We people who believe they are defenders of the constitution and the bill of rights deserve to retain it - i.e., we need to keep what we hold dearly, not adopt to the Canadian way. Leave the fascist conservatives to rule themselves, not us.

I'll fight (with words)for a division of the country before moving and I hope I don't have to move within or without the U.S.

A lot rests on Kerry's shoulders and I don't think he will make it as a centrist - centrists are too torn and pulled.

This right wing has shown all their lethal, destructive plans. There is no need to negotiate on a middle.

[mmonk]

18. Easy to say

but some of us have children. If things turn really bad like more violence, especially at home, and possibly another resulting economic turndown (which would really be bad under current debt load), I would have no choice but to put my offspring in a peaceful democracy somewhere.

[Deja Q]

9. Try New Zealand... or if you're one in an oppressed group * is targeting,

you can always try to flee in the name of asylum protection...

What bothers me is not knowing if Kerry, like most of the elected dumbasses, ever bothered to read the "Patriot" Act before signing it. (few bothered to read it, they just signed it in typical knee-jerk reaction. x( )

[FlaGranny]

10. You don't necessarily have to

have a 4-year degree. My profession qualifies me and I have no degree at all. On the Canadian gov web site there are a list of professions that can qualify you without a degree. At least there was when I looked over a year ago.

[DaveSZ]

12. I'm not saying I'm giving up yet hehe

I do worry that things will keep getting worse here though.

[AspenRose]

13. It's cheaper to go to college in Canada as well

At least it used to be.

[Nikia]

14. We will only move if we feel we are in danger

We would move to either Beleize or Costa Rica, if we feel that we can speak the language well enough by then. It is better to be able to disappear into the jungle if it would become necessary than possibly have to deal with surveillance cameras like they have in many industrialized countries too now. If things continue as they do, we would stay but if they start rounding up people who criticize the regime, it is better to live in exile.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. How many Congresspsersons voted AGAINST the Patriot Act?...

...What are you going to do to be less misleading in your next post?

[SmileyBoy]

16. I'm a Turkish citizen, but I have to learn the language.

I'm gonna start learning this fall.

[VTMechEngr]

19. I would never leave

My ancestor fought in the Continental Army to create this country. Like hell would I abandon it to fascists. If Fascists took over, I would fight to restore democracy, or die trying.