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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:24 AM
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Aryan Nations link to Blackwater Security?
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 11:28 AM by 9215
One of those killed in Fallujah was Michael Teague. There is also a Michael Teague who was head of security for the White Supremacist group Aryan Nations.

Are these the same people?

If so what are the other links between these organizations?




http//:seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/arya31.shtml

Thursday, August 31, 2000

By NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Much of yesterday's testimony was by former Aryan Nations security chief Michael Teague, also a defendant in the case. Butler, Yeager and former security guard Edward Jesse Warfield are the other defendants.

Teague painted a picture of Aryan Nations security guards as ex-convicts, some with drug problems, who often acted impulsively... But under examination from Dees, Teague read from internal documents that suggested otherwise.

"Aryan Nations is a disciplined, coordinated monolithic hierarchy with all authority emanating from leader-Pastor Richard Butler," Teague read from a handbook approved by Butler.

Teague testified that he'd had a conflict with Warfield because he thought Warfield used drugs and lacked the intelligence to be a security guard. But he also admitted that he'd appointed Warfield to a security job.

After court ended, Teague walked out of the courtroom and was surrounded by an honor guard of flag-carrying Aryans supporters. They sang a song as they escorted him to his vehicle.




Here is the info on the slain workers: http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=68349&ran=22767

......By Thursday night, three families had come forward to publicly acknowledge the loss of their sons. The three men have been identified as Jerry Zovko of Ohio, Michael Teague of Tennessee, and Scott Helvenston of Florida. Zovko and Teague were with the Army’s airborne special forces before joining Blackwater. ......
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:27 AM
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1. Doubt it's the same guy..here's the Michael Teague that was killed
http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=1758754&nav=1ugFM14B
School remembers volunteer coach killed in Iraq
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:40 AM
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5. His Photo from the link...
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:48 AM
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8. Both photos
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 12:02 PM by seemslikeadream


Richard Butler, a retired airplane mechanic and the 82-year-old founder and pastor of the Aryan Nations Church, so fragile that he spends the latter half of the parade in a plastic lawn chair carried on a flatbed truck. Behind him are Michael Teague, his chief of staff, in full Nazi regalia, and a smattering of women and men.



I wish he didn't have that hat on! I can't tell
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:58 PM
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20. I am sure that's not him
I am sure the company does some kind of screening and the military wouldn't let him stay in if he were a white supremacist like this. Especially since it could be found out so easily.

On a side note, are those just the dumbest looking people you have seen?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 01:09 PM
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21. Oh yes, the military screens its special forces very well
Ask yourself how many special forces soldiers you have ever seen who were not white.

Don

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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:16 PM
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22. I don't know how many special forces soliders I have seen
so I wouldn't know the answer. Special Forces soliders don't usually advertise that they are Special Forces.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 04:42 PM
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23. a few years out of date, but....
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/military/commandos/20000917-0010_mz1n17rank.html


About one in five soldiers, sailors and airmen volunteering for special-operations training is a minority member, while one-third of all military recruits are minorities, according to Pentagon statistics.

While the numbers of minority Army Special Forces candidates rose slightly over the past two years, the Navy suffered a drop in black and Latino volunteers for the SEALs during the same period.

....


See the stats at the bottom also.
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shekina Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 08:35 PM
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36. Not really
Those girls in the photo look no different than any other you'd find on your street in America. It's sad that they're being brought up to hate like that.
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FearandLoathing41 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:55 PM
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27. You guys are missing the fourth victim.
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 06:57 PM by FearandLoathing41
No, It's not the same Teague, but what you guys and gals are failing to ask here, Is who was the fourth Victim and why has his name not been revealed?

There's been plenty of time for family notification, So why no name...huh?

Smells does'nt it?

Was the fourth guy somebody that Blackwater and the Govenment, don't want us to know about?

Could the fourth guy, be tracked back to the CIA, proving that the "so called" Blackwater Contractors were not there to guard a food shipment at all, but as a covert roving death squad.

Is Blackwater a front company for the CIA's assassination of civilians?

Thats what we should be asking ourselves.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:37 PM
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33. Welcome to DU, FAL41
I like the way you think.

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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:35 PM
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32. Thanks for looking into this. I haven't had the time
to do this justice. It is odd that both Teagues had/have roots in Tennessee and are about the same age.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:30 AM
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2.  Jury finds against Aryan Nations for $6.3 million





Jury finds against Aryan Nations for $6.3 million


Is it this guy?





Nazi family values
Chewing the fat with a white-supremacist mom and her 6-year-old daughter at an Idaho barbecue.


- - - - - - - - - - - -
By Amy Benfer


July 15, 1999 | Last Saturday morning, 20 members of the Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations assembled in front of Zip's Hamburgers in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, to begin what had been billed as the "Aryan Nations 400-Man Flag Parade." As they gathered, an employee of Zip's arranged letters on the restaurant's marquee to spell out, "We support human rights."

Despite the parade's name, this is really family day, Nazi-style. At the head of the marchers is Richard Butler, a retired airplane mechanic and the 82-year-old founder and pastor of the Aryan Nations Church, so fragile that he spends the latter half of the parade in a plastic lawn chair carried on a flatbed truck. Behind him are Michael Teague, his chief of staff, in full Nazi regalia, and a smattering of women and men. But the crowd of protesters who line the streets has already decided to focus on a much smaller target: Michael Teague's 6-year-old daughter, who is carrying the Aryan Nations flag and marching with her mother, Christian, and 9-month-old sister.
http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/15/aryan_compound /


Victoria Keenan and her son Jason said they were attacked by the guards after their car backfired outside the group's compound near Coeur d'Alene. They said the men chased them in a truck, shot at them and forced them into a ditch. The Keenans were then beaten with rifle butts.

Two of the guards are serving prison terms for the attack, and a third is still a fugitive.

Plaintiffs' attorney Morris Dees argued that Butler and Teague were reckless and negligent in overseeing the group's security staff.

In closing arguments, he urged the jury to award the Keenans $1.26 million in compensatory damages and $10 million in punitive damages to send a message to hate groups across the United States.

http://www.cnn.com/2000/LAW/09/07/aryan.verdict


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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:31 AM
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3.  look for Blackwater photo
I've got the one from Aryan

Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 10:27 AM by seemslikeadream
look for Blackwater


Jerry Zovko of Ohio, Michael Teague of Tennessee, and Scott Helvenston of Florida. Zovko and Teague were with the Army’s airborne special forces before joining Blackwater.


Teague was a 12-year Army veteran who served in Afghanistan, Panama and Grenada. He received a bronze star for his service in Afghanistan.

Teague had worked in the security business since leaving the Army six years ago, but he joined Blackwater Security only two months ago.

38 years old


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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:05 PM
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29. Aryan Nations Teague should be about 35 now, according to this
"Five members of Butler's Aryan Nations church were arrested Sunday afternoon"
...
"Arrested were: Michael R. Teague, 30, for obstructing an officer, resisting arrest, malicious injury to property, and unlawful assembly;"

Updated 29 July 1998

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/6545/news.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:39 AM
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4. Tennessee - Idaho connection?
SEEKING - people looking for living Teagues... Dannah was born in 1946 in Lewiston, Idaho. ... TEAGUE...his father was JAMES OLIVER TEAGUE (born in Tennessee). ... anthony michael teague sallydemetriou@hotmail.com ...
www.teagueonline.freeserve.co.uk/seeking.html - 26k - Cached - Similar pages
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:40 AM
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6. I know personally of the links between some of these white supremists...
...and mercenary security outfits. One of those indicted in the Iran Contra affair, who has run some of these private security operations, is a white supremist and has affiliations with Aryan Nations and Hammerskins. I know because he's a relative, which is also why I'm not printing the name. I wouldn't be at all surprised.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:43 PM
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26. Also hiring:
Former members of the South African Secret Police -- I read it from several mainstream sources. We're talking the apartheid era guys, too.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:30 PM
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31. That's good stuff. If we can establish past links then it makes this case
more plausible. We need more info here.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:44 AM
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7. There's a photo here of Michael Teague Blackwater
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 11:52 AM
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9. bad link
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:00 PM
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10. It's the same one as #5
and I can't bring the other picture from LBN here. I'm still trying
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:05 PM
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11. Most of these guys might be found in Soldier of Fortune mag.
They write articles about their mercenary/ security gig exploits. I'll bet this Teague guy has either published articles or been featured in SofF.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:10 PM
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12. I just went to Southern Poverty Law Center and
did a question to them. This could be interesting to them if he was the same.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:13 PM
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13. Maybe?
Butler, Aryan Nations, Michael Teague, John Yeager and Jesse Warfield were
held liable for shooting at marijuana-smoking Indians in a car which
backfired outside Butler's Hayden Lake, Idaho compound. The judgment is
expected to bankrupt the cult, which had taught that Americans were
actually Jews and whose associates had been involved in bank robberies,
bombings and murders.

http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/2000IV/msg00194.html



Barrett said that he was saddened by the conviction of Mike Teague, a
former member of The Nationalist Movement, who had quit to join Butler.
"There is still time for youth to turn their lives around, gain public
support and win the victory for the Nationalist cause. Perhaps the lesson
to come out of all of this is to switch to lawful methods and winning
ways," Barrett said.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:22 PM
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14. I don't know?
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 12:23 PM by seemslikeadream
Teague was a 12-year Army veteran who served in Afghanistan, Panama and Grenada, said his wife, Rhonda Teague. She said he received a bronze star for his service in Afghanistan.

Rhonda Teague called her husband a "proud father, soldier and American."

"I, his son Brandon and his friends and family will miss him without measure," her statement said.

Teague, of Clarksville, Tenn., had worked in the security business since he left the Army six years ago, and joined Blackwater Security two months ago, WTVF-TV of Nashville reported.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/world/8333366.htm?1c
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:43 PM
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16. Salon identifies wife as "Christian", KS newspaper as "Rhonda"
So, different Teagues, unless bigamy has become big among the fundie Nazi types.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:51 PM
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18. Or perhaps divorce is big among the fundie Nazi types? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:55 PM
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19. Christian Teague - journalist
I got permission to go up to the compound from Christian Teague; I got it because I was polite, I did not carry a sign or start a fight during the parade, and I am white -- in fact, as it turned out, I was the only journalist around who was white enough. Although I had not wanted to visit the headquarters alone, I could not find anyone to accompany me who was sufficiently Aryan. The Associated Press reporter was Jewish; Boise's Channel 2 News correspondent was Asian-American; the protesters, of course, were out of the question; and a journalist from the local paper, who has covered the Aryan Nations for 20 years, was white enough but on deadline. "Just be careful, these aren't nice people," he told me.
http://www.salon.com/mwt/hot/1999/07/15/aryan_compound/
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:32 PM
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15. The lawyer for Aryan has the same name as Secuity Firm
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 12:40 PM by seemslikeadream
 Only rare desperados comment, as Edgar Steele did on Rense.com: "The silence in America concerning Jews is simply deafening, isn't it? The old adage has it that, when visiting a foreign country, to ascertain who really runs things, one need determine only who is spoken about in whispers, if at all." Judged by this measure, the Jews rule supreme. Indeed, when I referred to 'Jewish media lords' during a UNESCO conference in the summer of 2001, the audience's hearts missed a beat. Â
http://irishantiwar.org/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=0000HT&topic_id=1&topic=Irish%20Anti-War


Edgar Steele, the lawyer for Aryan Nations, did not return messages left at his law offices in Sandpoint yesterday. However, court officials confirmed that Steele withdrew the notice of appeal the day before.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aryn05.shtml

http://www.steelefoundation.com/index.php
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 12:47 PM
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17. Here's some links.
I don't have time today myself to sleuth through these, but maybe they will have something you are looking for:

http://www.twelvearyannations.com/
http://www.rickross.com/groups/aryan.html
http://www.sofmag.com/home.do

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:23 PM
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24. Lot's of folks named Michael and Teague around the US...Even though
I think that "Blackwater USA" thing and DynCorp, Vinell and who knows how many other "private" companies are really sort of bizarre, I don't think there's a link there.

Although it's possible that Aryan Nations has found "Full Employment" under Bush/Cheney, I don't think from what I've read this guy who died was one of them or a leader of it.

I've wondered where the Aryan Nations and the rest of the "skin head" and White Supremecy folks went when the Chimp came in, though. They've been pretty quiet. I guess because "their guy" is in the WH. :-(
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:32 PM
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25. who's being quiet?
http://www.blackcommentator.com/70/70_cover_white_terror.html

"The Noonday, Texas WMD story was squashed by the Bush Administration with the active collaboration of editors throughout corporate media."

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FearandLoathing41 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:00 PM
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28. The missing Fourth Victim
No, It's not the same Teague, but what you guys and gals are failing to ask here, Is who was the fourth Victim and why has his name not been revealed?

There's been plenty of time for family notification, So why no name...huh?

Smells does'nt it?

Was the fourth guy somebody that Blackwater and the Govenment, don't want us to know about?

Could the fourth guy, be tracked back to the CIA, proving that the "so called" Blackwater Contractors were not there to guard a food shipment, but as a covert roving death squad.

Is Blackwater a front company for the CIA's assassination of civilians?

Thats what we should be asking ourselves.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:18 PM
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30. I read somewhere...sorry, no link...
that the names of the 3 "contractors" were revealed by family members, not by the government or Blackwater.

Doesn't mean that they weren't covert ops, but lack of identification of the fourth may or may not mean that much.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 08:30 PM
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35. Very good
:hi:
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FearandLoathing41 Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:55 PM
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34. OK , then, where was this Mythical Food Shipment then?
Edited on Sat Apr-03-04 07:57 PM by FearandLoathing41
Did You See a food shipment, Being looted in those pictures? I did'nt. Seems like the propaganda happy al-Jas camera men, would have been more than happy to pan a few shots of Iraqi Teenages making off with the food as an additional insult, but nope, not a trace, not a word.

By the way, Since when are the $100,000.00+ Ex-High Speed, low Drag killers, the guy's you send to Guard a couple of trucks of food? For that kind of money we almost could have hired Dale Enhart Jr to Drive the Grocery truck.

Kind of a Step down from walking around with an assault carbine, in a vest and sunglasses, looking cool, while guarding Bremmer and Saudi Princes. Grocery boys...I don't think so.

That they were Guarding a food shipment, is one of the biggest lies, since they told us, that those North Vietnamese patrol boats fired on our Destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Hollywood Helveston was trolling around the streets of Fallujah, looking for somebody to shoot with experimental Blended Metal bullets, So Blackwater and some Govenment contractors could get rich off the war.
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