CNN/Gallup polls were bogus in 2000; they are just as bad now

[TruthIsAll]

I distinctly remember the shock when Gore pulled ahead by 10 points vs. Bush - and whore Judy Woodruf and Bill Schneider made sure to keep it off the air for a day, saying there was a computer "glich". Right. Just like Rather said there was a "glich" when 16,000 Gore votes disappeared in Volusia County.

They are up to their old tricks. Gallup used to be unbiased. No longer. They prop up Bush whenever he is in trouble.

Can you believe that Kerry went from 8 points up to 4 points down in 3 weeks, a 12 point switch? And this while the Bush 9/11 fraud was being exposed by Clarke. And when it was also revealed that they lied to Congress about the cost of Medicare by $130 billion and passed along $100,000 bribes to get the bill passed in Jan. by ONE vote.

Compare CNN the lates CBS and LA Times polls, which show Kerry ahead, which he is by more than they say.

Get real. The fix is in. With Diebold waiting in the wings.

CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll. March 26-28, 2004. N=590 likely voters nationwide. MoE ± 4.

Bush Neither Other NoOpinion
03/28 51 47 1 - 1
03/07 44 52 2 1 1
02/17 43 55 1 - 1
02/08 49 48 1 - 2
02/01 46 53 - - 1
01/11 55 43 1 - 1
...........................

CBS News Poll. March 30-April 1, 2004. N=834 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.
Bush Kerry Other Don'tVote (vol.) Don'tKnow
04/01 33 48 3 1 5
03/14 46 43 3 1 7
02/27 46 47 1 2 4
02/15 43 48 3 1 5

---------------------------------------------------------------------The Los Angeles Times Poll. March 27-30, 2004. N=1,415 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.

Bush Kerry Unsure
03/04 46 49 5

............................

[59millionmorons]

1. Ferry?

I had to, anyway Gallup only polled adults, 54% of adults don't even vote. And Gallup is trying to tell you that only 2% are undecided. Please don't insult my intelligence. Also LA Times poll released the day before the CBS poll had Keryy up 47-44-4. This is why Bush flip flopped on letting Rice testify live and why they all of the sudden will allow all of Clinton papers be looked at. Believe me they wouldnt do this if there internal polls were not screaming.

[TruthIsAll]

2. Ok, we are even.

Had to. You are dead-on.

[balanced]

4. Zogby, Zogby, Zogby

Who of the major pollsters was the closest in 2000? Zogby. It will be interesting to see his April numbers. As of March 21, Bush's job performance rating was in the tank: 46% approve, 53% disapprove.

[kiahzero]

12. It's a poll of likely voters

Those 54% that don't normally vote probably aren't selected in the sample.

On edit: the second one is in fact registered voters. However, polls like that are terribly prone to error, just like polls on whether or not people go to church - respondents feel guilty, and so they lie.

[asjr]

3. This made me think of something

that happened in 2000. Does anyone here remember the organization that was doing exit polls (and the org had been around for years and years) and was showing Gore winning? But the "newspeople" kept saying Bush was ahead. Finally, the organization just up and quit making exit polls and pulled out altogether. I think it began with a V. Long time company. Maybe they just got disgusted or maybe someone "suggested" they quit. Looking back I think that may be where the "fix" began.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

7. VNS (Voter's News Service)

[asjr]

8. Thanks, should have known the V would be for voters. Duh!

[IronLionZion]

5. 590 voters eh?

:eyes:

[EricNYC]

6. Does anyone else think the sample size for the Gallup is small?

I mean, 590 people is smaller than all the other national polls. I think LA Times is the best. They nailed Iowa, NH, and they havea huge sample. I've read on The Note that the way they get their numbers is the best, most time consiming way. They've spent a fortune on polling this year to try and become a national political newspaper. Ron Brownstein's articles are all must-reads too.

[Liberalator]

9. "Registered" vs. "Likely" Voters is Key Difference

A "Registered Voter" is simply someone who is registered to vote, and thanks to motor voter laws and other voter registration efforts, includes a large number of people who have never voted, and in ever increasing numbers, will not vote in this year's election.

A "Likely Voter" is defined as (1) a registered voter, (2) someone who voted in a recent primary election (or has voted in previous presidential elections), and (3) someone who plans to vote in this year's presidential election. Republicans are considered more likely to vote than Democrats and usually make up more of the "Likely Voters" groups. Each polling organization tries to factor in the unique dynamics of each election (i.e., party interest, commitment, etc.) but the "Likely Voter" results are almost always more conservative than "Registered Voters".

[newyawker99]

13. Hi Liberalator!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[neverborn]

10. Waiiiit...

04/01 33 48 3 1 5


33% for Bush? really?!

[TruthIsAll]

17. My bad. Its 43% for Bush

TIA

[are_we_united_yet]

11. Always felt

CNN/Gallup/USA Today polls were biased in favor of *.

[LunaC]

14. After the CNN/Letterman lie fiasco

CNN has proven beyond a doubt that they (and Fox) are the official broadcast stations for the WH and therefore deemed untrustworthy. End of news flash.......

[w4rma]

15. Typo in 04/01 CBS News Poll, I think.

Should read Bush at 43, not 33. I think.

[TruthIsAll]

16. Correction: Latest CBS has Kerry 48, Bush 43

TIA