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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:46 PM
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I can't believe I just heard Pat Buchanan criticizing the neo-cons!
Then he carefully explained who they are.

Air American is genius! Fantastic. I love Randi Rhodes.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:48 PM
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1. he hates the neo conservative movement
go to his magazine's website, the quote that he doesn't know or like the new conservatives came from his mouth.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:09 PM
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4. It's great. I've never heard him talk about it before.
Now's the time to be talking about this too. Clarke and O'Neill have established that Bush/Cheney wanted Iraq from the beginning. So now people have to be asking themselves, why did they want Iraq?

We need to be talking about PNAC and the neo-cons again. So that everybody who doesn't want to be at war for the next 50 years can have the information before they vote.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:48 PM
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2. He founded a magazine attacking them
Called the American Conservative.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 05:51 PM
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3. Pat always said he didn't leave the GOP, they left him.
As much as I dislike some of his stands, I find him more acceptable than the neo cons. The neo cons put their agenda above the needs of America, and that should be opposed with vigor.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:10 PM
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5. He has been railing them for a while.
He is a conservative. They are radical/fascist.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:10 PM
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6. What I want to know...
is WHY no one ever refers to the neocons specifically as the PNAC? Buchanan talked around it but you just know who/what he was talking about but he never identified their organization by name. Why is that? More people might be inclined to do their own research if they had this info.

Anyway, here's the dirt on the PNAC for anyone still in the dark about them:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=976762

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:12 PM
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7. Actually Randi Rhodes did discuss PNAC with a caller earlier.
They did mention it. I don't know if PB did.
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:18 PM
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9. Damn! And I missed it!
I'm encouraged that it sneaked out. Thanks for letting me know! Hope springs eternal.......



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The Katts Meow Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:14 PM
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8. Pat Buchanan shocks me sometimes! He actually says something I agree
with once in a while, but then he goes back to normal and says something completely off the wall again.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:18 PM
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10. Read this article by him
http://www.amconmag.com/03_24_03/cover.html

March 24, 2003 issue
Copyright © 2003 The American Conservative



Whose War?

A neoconservative clique seeks to ensnare our country in a series of wars that are not in America’s interest.

by Patrick J. Buchanan


The War Party may have gotten its war. But it has also gotten something it did not bargain for. Its membership lists and associations have been exposed and its motives challenged. In a rare moment in U.S. journalism, Tim Russert put this question directly to Richard Perle: “Can you assure American viewers ... that we’re in this situation against Saddam Hussein and his removal for American security interests? And what would be the link in terms of Israel?”
... more at link....
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:29 PM
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11. On this one issue Buchanan is alright.
He was the first to fully embrace Karen Kwiatkowski's message, and published a 3-part series by her that you can look for in the amconmag.com archives.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 06:30 PM
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12. pat buchanan has always criticized the neo cons nuthin new
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-03-04 07:08 PM
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13. Buchanan has been doing that for a while now.
He has written some thoughtful, interesting articles about them. Other than that service, I dislike Buchanan and what he stands for.
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