Can Anything Stop The Neo-Cons?

[smirkymonkey]

I am beginning to think that this administration is so hell-bent on carrying out their complete agenda, that they will let NOTHING stand in their way.

For instance - Even if Kerry could legitimately win the presidency, no matter what we do, if the election is Diebolded and the November election results in another stolen presidency, what is the point of anything?

I am getting pretty weary and increasingly depressed over what seems to be the inevitability of the U.S. becoming a fascist state.

What, if anything, can ensure that the dems a fair shake in November?

[Soup Bean]

1. You always ask for more than you think you'll get.

Iraq may be all they really expected to get, even if they really want more. We're pretty much stuck there fore the forseeable future, no matter what Kerry does. They got away with a lot more than anyone ever thought they would be able to do, Patriot Act, Total Information Awareness (mostly), gutting Medicare, privatizing tons of jobs, transferring wealth to the top 1%...

Their Administration has been a roaring success by the measure of those whom it benefitted. They don't care what the average American thinks, and I don't think they expected to serve two terms. What's more, I don't think they care if they do. Bush was speculating that he wouldn't run again as soon as he was elected.

They've done what they came to do. The rest is just so much table scraps for the rest of us.

[smirkymonkey]

2. Yes, but if they get 4 more years, without

hopes of being re-selected they will have that much more time to complete their agenda. By that time, things will be so far gone, I don't think it will matter who is in office.

I think they will keep going until they are forcibly stopped, unfortunately.

[sam sarrha]

3. they have some big guns int psychological propaganda Mills..maybe not

Americans seem so gullible and self destructive and willing be a lemming at the beach cliff.. i think we are doomed.

[napi21]

4. Oh, STOP the gloom & doom already!

Take a deep breath and think about what has happened AGAINST this admin just in the past few weeks!

It's only April for goodness sake!

I'm a firm believer that if your opposition is shooting at each other, DON'T GET IN THE LINE OF FIRE! Kerry just needs to let them destroy themselves.

The thing that worries me most isn't winning the election, but after the election. If we can't take back the House and Senate, or at least the Seante, we are going to see another four years of the same abuse that Clinton got.

Clinton didn't have ONE DAY in office when some Pub wasn't accusing him of something and it lasted for the entire * years!

If you're going to worry about something, that's something to worry about!!!!!

[YNGW]

5. Agreed

>we are going to see another four years of the same abuse that Clinton got.

It'll be worse. We only THOUGHT they gave Clinton crap.

[Hippo_Tron]

7. We'll pull through, DeLay and co are SWINE and people know it

Kerry is a likeable guy with the ability to appeal to Americans. He will look much better on TV than the Republicans which will give him a huge advantage.

[smirkymonkey]

6. What has happened against this administration

in the last 4 weeks, and indeed over the last year, under normal circumstances would have no doubt resulted in impeachment. Obviously, it hasn't. It's not what we are throwing at them, it what STICKS that counts.

I will regain my optimism when it becomes apparent that the Clarke accusations aren't going the way of the Plame investigation - and every other major infraction by the Bush Administration that hasn't gotten swept under the rug.

[Hippo_Tron]

8. The big difference is congress...

Bush is the first president since I believe John Adams, to not veto a single piece of legislation. Even though there have been instances where congress and the white house were controlled by the same party, this is probably the first time that the congressional leadership have been under the direct control of the white house.

[leftofthedial]

9. nothing peaceful or democratic can stop them

just as laws do not stop crime, only enforcement can, so will stopping neocons require force.

They are amoral and believe that:

might makes right

the ends justify the means

the victors write the history books

[i_c_a_White_Ghost]

10. Look people eventually

when the country becomes so gutted THEN people will realize what we already know. I just hope they wake up before the election.

[OneBlueSky]

11. not as long as they own the voting machines . . .

it's not who votes that counts . . . it's who counts the votes . . .