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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:44 AM
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David Kay on CSPAN now - 'Every PC in the world must be a US collection
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 11:48 AM by dArKeR
device for the CIA/NSA/FBI.' (paraphrased nearly exactly.) He also said that 'every computer leaving America, exporting, must have signal intelligence.' I don't think it's my usual mistrust. I'm 99% he advocating that every PC, computer, internet connection MUST be wired directly into the NSA/CIA/FBI mainframe computers.

Listen/read the transcript for yourself.

Where's the talk about making the world a 'Fair and Balanced' place for all people, (economically, jobs, salaries, religion, respect...) and thus stopping the cause of terrorism?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:48 AM
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1. What????? This is the way they want to eliminate the web!!!!
who is going to use it knowing this?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:09 PM
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6. Exactly...
...but that will also create the need for devices/software that will negate such government-sponsored tracking devices. This will set up another round of hacker vs cyber-security at a level that has never before been seen.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:49 AM
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2. It's best to build your own......
Of course, hardware and MS software will probably have tracking devices.

Sounds like a mission for Spy-Bot!!!!!!
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:51 AM
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3. THe point he is making now is that if you can get on-line gamers
Edited on Mon Apr-05-04 11:52 AM by lindashaw
to interact say, in urban warfare games, you can learn a lot by the tactics that people from all over the world use in interactive strategy.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 11:55 AM
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4. Question period: Man just asked Kay. 'Don't forget in the 90's the
started a program called 'Golden Keys'. Don't forgot we need people to buy our stuff. The Goldren Keys program stopped 'them' from buying our military eq. Don't forget about that.'

Unamed man.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:01 PM
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5. Question: 'Why is our ST so far behind?'
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I guess ST= Science and Technology.

Answer: 'Because Presidents humiliate the Science advisors. It's a tough system and you can't isolate and degrade scientists.'

My comment: What Kay didn't say is 33% of the scientist working for the US Fed are Asian. And remember what the FBI did to Lee Wun Ho. The Asian scientists said they would boycott America if things didn't change.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:09 PM
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7. Good luck trying this
When the hardware is manufactured in places like Taiwan, and the software is written in India.

Fat chance getting these folks to collect data for US spooks.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:10 PM
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8. slightly OT, but equally ridiculous
my brother bought himself a computer online, through Dell. During the bit where they ask for credit-card details was the most stupifying question:

Do you plan to use this computer for the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (chemical, biological, nuclear)?


Quite what they hope to gleam from that cunning mini-inquisition I have absolutely no idea!
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:26 PM
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11. He should have said
Nah, not really. It's just going to be a control terminal for my Cray, where I do all the serious fusion simulations.

The sales critter probably would have said, "uh, OK."
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:12 PM
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9. I saw him several days and wondered about that one statement
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:22 PM
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10. Sorry to have to say this
but this is why at least the Europeans need their own indigenous computer hardware and software manufacturing industries.

If there was still a Cold War would the u.s. allow the Soviets to produce all their computers for them.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 01:24 PM
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12. In my opinion, looking at Kays body languange and tone, I felt a Smirk
in him that we are going to do this even if it is illegal and against the constitution. (In his reponse to the questions put to him.

If you honetly look at his body language and arrogance... (minus the intelligence), you'd got a darn near match of aWol.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 02:59 PM
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13. This also knocks on my other opinion. aWol/aWol types are making more
terrorism. By not asking questions or what these people want is just making those people see that negociation is useless and they may as well fight until their suicide deaths. I've only heard Robert McNamara on a CSPAN thingie mention 'Empathy'.

Fog of War: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara, The
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317910/


http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2004/02/28/morris/index_np.html
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