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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:50 PM Original message |
Why are southerners so proud of the Confederacy? |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Its a theme that still resonates today |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. But you forget |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Nope, you are wrong! |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. LOL |
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rock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
29. Love your caveat |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
36. But also conveniently forgotten... |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
67. Don't forget Dread Scott |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 07:59 PM Response to Reply #2 |
90. It was about slavery. |
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dtseiler (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. You'll get yours one of these days! |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Love the Onion |
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buddy22600 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
4. Originally I was from Montgomery, AL |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Civil Rights |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
91. Thank you!!! |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tighten your chinstrap and keep your head down |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yep, good advice. We haven't had one of these Confederacy posts |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. it's starting now |
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buddy22600 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have a question. |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. A state can neither leave or ignore federal law |
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buddy22600 (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Thank you |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. No |
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VelmaD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. Bad example... |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. Wrong |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
86. In that case, Texas would be out of the Union |
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SmileyBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. Sometimes I think it would be better if the CSA won independence. |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Harry Turtledove |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
51. I've been reading that series and it's fascinating. I love what ifs in |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
87. Love Turtledove, but |
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dtseiler (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I think the North should secede |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. good idea |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. So, you wouldn't mind letting slavery survive. |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. We wouldn't have had to enforce the fugitive slave act |
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demigoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
11. Men always glorify war |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
94. zzzzzzzz........ |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
16. agreed |
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PragMantisT (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
18. Beats me and I live here |
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Nay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
81. Beats me, and I live here too. |
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harrison (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. A simple question with a complicated answer. As a native |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. harrison, this is why I am confused |
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markus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
78. The causes of the war were "its worst characteristics" |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Newt Gingrich would disagree. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
89. Grant first took the field against Lee |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. because they hate America |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. Fighting yourselves |
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keopeli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
26. Southerners today know very little about the civil war |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
27. False assumption. Many of us loathe its memory. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. It's much easier to act superior & avoid the facts. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Living in a city that Sherman burned, I thank God they aren't |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. Sherman was ahead of his time. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
83. He was only following the Confederates' lead |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
95. Bingo! |
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Brotherjohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
30. Most of us are NOT. It is an embarrassing part of our past of which we... |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. What do you think the real percentages are? |
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Brotherjohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I think that's pretty close. But answers like "neither" and "both" give.. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
92. Many southerners were |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
32. Know the rage that we Democrats feel BOUT bUSH - that is how we....... |
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NewHampster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. - |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. patricia |
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SayitAintSo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
98. Some call it " The War to Smite Yankee Arrogance" ..... |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
35. It's Celebrated Because It's Romanticized |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. LoneStar |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
54. I Think Hood Was Incompetent |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
93. Don't think you're being fair to Hood |
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LoneStarLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-06-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. You're Right |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. I think it is more about Trying to put a good face on their loss. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
42. If you were a Southerner, you wouldn't have to ask why |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. "Tell us what YOU care about about that war, please." |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I'd like to see what placton says. nt |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. placton asked a question |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. my answer: |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
96. No group of Americans ever fought harder, under worse conditions |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I'm a southerner |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. You don't object to being stereotyped? |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. People who admire the confederacy are racist and ignorant. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. You've misunderstood. I'd never claim that all Southerners |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. OK, explain this comment. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I didn't see any of that in the original post |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I object to the notion that we have to overlook |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
76. Stereotypes of ignorance, racism, and inbreeding |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. I admire the south, not the confederacy. |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. Because we love pissing off haughty Northerners |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Can you answer the question? |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. probably the same reason that some northerners admire |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 04:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
82. C'mon now. |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. ... |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Look at electoral college map |
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mot78 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Especially the ones that keep moving to the Sunbelt in droves and then tel |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Unfortunately half and half |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Are you saying the South and the Confederacy are inseperable? |
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ACK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. No I am not saying that... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
68. Because Reconstruction was not properly carried out |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. We were going to exile several of them |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I'm thinking more along the lines of several hundred thousand |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. I think all that would have been necessery was the deportation of anyone |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. Speaking as a southerner |
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FreeSpeechCrusader (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
79. First of all, use "some" southerners and you will always do better... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm not |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
85. they cling to the delusion that even though they lost, they were correct |
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chaska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
88. I'm not reading this. |
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9215 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
97. This topic pisses me off. |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
99. I object to the term "traitor" |
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fla nocount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
100. Simple really...States Rights. |
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SayitAintSo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
101. Oh Goody .... Let's dig up the Thurmond threads ! |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
102. Half OT: Regarding Lincoln |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. No |
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FDRrocks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-05-04 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
103. Half OT: Regarding 1860 Election |
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