Bush's New Lie

[americanstranger]

That a million jobs were lost as a direct consequence of the 9/11 attacks.

http://www.blah3.com/graymatter/archives/00001221.html

Let's stop this one now. I don't want to see 70% of Americans believing it, because it just is not true.

-as

[Skidmore]

1. and may we point out,

it became necessary to outsource jobs so that our workers would be safer in the midst of this "war on terra".

[qb]

2. Enter this quote in O'Franken's contest

http://www.moveon.org/franken/

[americanstranger]

7. Done.

Prolly won't win, tho.

I'm in a pretty pessimistic mood this morning.

-as

[buddy22600]

3. OK

How many jobs have been lost since bush took office? I read something the other day that said Kerry is only saying about 1.8 million now. Wasn;t it almost 3 million a couple weeks ago. I am confused, will someone point me in the right direction.

[swinney]

5. 2.8 million manufacturing jobs lost

but jobs created in fast foods and construction.

we need a minimum wage big time.

Only Democrats Will care for underpaid. Republicans care for richest of rich. Christ-like! Sound Christians.

[papau]

8. Net is 1.9 million after the 308000 added in March.

It is higher if you measure from the point a little after the recession began during 2001, and .

the number of jobs added since the recovery/economic growth began Nov 01 is yet a another over a million negative number.

The household survey has been made unreliable via Bush folks making math/procedure changes (it was never that reliable but it tracked the payroll survey during the 20 years prior to Bush43) and now no longer tracks any other indication/index - and indeed folks with no job who tell the interviewer that they are self employed looking for clients are not screened correctly - leading to average wage for these folks of less than a couple of hundred per month - which leads to Bush's job creation number that even Greenspan has indicated should not be used anymore.

The 300000 increase in total jobs just about all came from the 300000 increase in part time temp jobs. Just about no new full time jobs created, plus total hours worked by workforce went down, despite new hires, and average wage is now up 1.8% over same point last year - which is below inflation by some calculations.

Lack of jobs/ delay in a recovery/expansion creating jobs leads Goldman Sachs economist to note current situation fits a 2% + growth in GDP - implying Bush is telling lies as he reports GDP growth higher than that.

[aquart]

4. In NYC, in the travel and tourism industries.....

And George's outrageous panic-mongering? He may be right. He took a bad situation and made it endlessly worse.

[Cocoa]

6. he said it again today

he was speaking about job training, and included his usual lengthy section where he makes excuses for his shitty record.

[bacchant]

9. in a way he's admitting he lost them

After all he created 911 didn't he?