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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:16 AM
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What does the Republican Party Stand for anyway??? All I hear
about is the Negative stuffs.... what of the Poz things.... Can we get a list going? BTW Poz means Positive stuffs, not BS.

Come, we go see what they got.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:17 AM
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1. They USED to stand for fiscal responsibility.
Keywords: "used to".
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:19 AM
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4. 1.) Corporate Welfare
2.) Handing over the National Parks to oil companies
3.) Gay- bashing

Continue...
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kerryin2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:40 AM
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9. when??
Reagan,Bush, and now Bush two all have huge deficits, so when were they ever fiscally conservative???
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:18 AM
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2. they want to "get the government off your back"
That's what they say anyway.

:shrug:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:19 AM
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3. Unfortunately, My Friend
There is nothing positive that Party stands for anymore....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:21 AM
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5. From the sounds of it, YOU are Correct
The absence is Deafening.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:32 AM
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6. if you're extremely wealthy, they stand for giving you huge tax cuts
2nd is corporate welfare.

Everything Bushco does is for corporations. NOT for people.



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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:37 AM
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7. here's a pretty good summary from The Apparat . . .
an article mentioned a few posts down . . . what the Republicans (or, more specifically, the radical right neocons now in power) stand for is:

- less government
- generous tax cuts for the privileged
- privatization or elimination of Social Security and Medicare
- rollbacks of environmental safeguards
- major curbs on the public's right to go to court
- a laissez-faire free market system unfettered by regulations or public-interest accountability

more here . . .

http://www.mediatransparency.com/stories/apparat.html
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 01:38 AM
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8. Long ago & far away
I considered myself a Republican, though I've always been registered Independent & split my ticket.

Back then, Repubs believed in a strong environmental policy; remember Teddy Roosevelt & Nixon?

Back then, Repubs believed it was none of the govt's business what you did in your private life; the gov't should butt out.

Back then, Repubs were against foreign wars & entanglements; war & a strong military should be for America's defense.

Back then, Repubs believed that the govt should be careful with the taxpayers money, & run balanced budgets.

Back then, Repubs were champions of civil liberties.

Back then, the Repubs represented the middle class: people who were working hard to move up the economic ladder.

But that was all long ago & far away, & I don't consider myself a Republican anymore.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:16 AM
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13. Forgot to add:
Republicans used to believe it was patriotic to serve time in the military, rather than just sending other people's kids.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:02 AM
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10. Take a look at their pre-Reagan platforms
Take a look at their pre-Reagan platform and insert between The Republican Party and stand for, the words "does not" and you'll know what they stand for.
The Republican Party "does not" stand for smaller government
The Republican Party "does not" stand for fiscal responsibility
The Republican Party "does not" stand for keeping the government out of your personal life.
etc
etc
etc
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:04 AM
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11. It was Raygun who fucked us all
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 02:04 AM by DaveSZ
Sadly.

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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:09 AM
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12. Greed, God, and Global Warfare.
...well, their version of God.
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GordonOKC Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 02:53 AM
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14. The Republican denomination
stands for cheap labor.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:12 AM
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15. So far Nothing really Poz.... so who are the Pubs who think their version
of how to run things is any good?? Cause, I don't see any evidence yet of any Vision, Benevilency, Sharing/Caring.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:42 PM
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34. AMEN
CHEAP LABOR!!!!
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nomatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:20 AM
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16. Always championing the highest bidder
They stand for nothing, but will protest with rightest indignation, any challenge to the contrary.

Please educate yourself & watch CSpan II. Other than McCain name one republican senator who acts like he represents his constituents first and his party second.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:24 AM
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17. Nothing but the almighty
buck, they care about nothing else and they stand for nothing else. x(
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:31 AM
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19. *Sigh* I guess no one comes forward to say a few good words about
the Pub Phiosophy and what they stand for...in a Poz Light.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:38 AM
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21. Well, I honestly can't think of one good thing they stand for
I mean, seriously.

I am trying, and I am even giving them the benifit of the doubt here.

But Everything they supposedly stand for, BushCo Defies.

Sure, they claim to be for smaller government, but that is a crock of shit and we all know it.

They say they are for fiscal responsibility, but here we have Bush posting half a trillion dollars in deficits each year.

All they do is destroy life and profit from it.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:29 AM
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18. Honestly: Making a quick buck
No matter who they have to slime, cheat, scam, rob, or kill. Money, money, money.

A Republican is always busy, and he has three concerns:

How can he make more money.

How can he prevent others from having money.

and

If someone else does get money, how can he steal it?
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:47 AM
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23. Experiances with the worst of local Rebugs
My last tree sit in city involved several trees whose only sin was blocking the view somewhat to a large Queen's Ann Lace mansion called the Sheldon McMurphey Johnson House. As the city of Eugene, Oregon's only museum, it is a veritable clubhouse for an association of monied, yet tastefully multi-generational people of Lane County who -- you guessed it -- are the most Republican of local Republicans.

The "authorized by the city volunteers" started cutting the old pear tree west of me will I was still in my sleeping bag on the platform of one of the trees. I could hear then snickering as they prepared to try to scare me so bad I would panic and hopefully fall.

They threatened to shoot me if anything feel from my platform, they said if they had their druthers they would as fain cut my tree down too. As it was, they girdled it with a hatchet and the rifle barrel plainly visible sticking out the open passenger door of their work truck.

What are Republicans; swine. Pigs that will kill and violate any rule to achieve any end desired strong enough.

If you oppose them persistently enough and they wish to thwart you badly enough, murdering you is not out of the question.

To a Repug, the Golden Rule is: Do unto other BEFORE they do unto you. And to always honor and remember that in the spirit of this rule, he who has the gold makes the rules.

The worst of them are a cancer in the core of the soul of the United States. That is a Republican.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:54 AM
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24. Ferret, Welcome to DU. What an Honor tp have you on this thread
Mahalo Nui Loa,

Sending beer and ribs, da smoked kine.

Words of perception and wisdom
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:28 AM
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27. Au contraire, the pleasure is mine
Thank you for your kind words. Whenever I have posted on or monitored a venue like Café Paranoia (FreeRepublic), I wash my hands afterward, and find it disgusting to not be able to wash off the small but odious stain such thread reading leaves on the mind.

My opus as Bicycle Thug at FR speaks of a real dangerous place that is in deep denial about their fascist trappings. The scope and depth that place has become Bush Bot Heaven demonstrably displays how ruthless and coldly we can expect the Bush campaign to be run.

I am at least for this election because it is such a critical one will be a Pacific Green squarely behind the election of John Kerry to replace this disappointing and malignantly foolish Supreme Court appointment.

I look forward to familiarizing myself better with this virtual community, and already I feel much less edgy than a FR or LP can leave you.

Frankly I want to make libertyPost.Org a much more rounded place, as though it's community is comprised of primarily refugees from Café Paranoia and Jim Rob spies, it is an open forum, and a few more liberal to moderate interlocutors would help defuse the aspects of the place borrowed from what LPers call; TOS, or the other site.

There are Bush Bots there who get slam dunked heavily by the majority of interlocutors who are conservative, but loath Bush. What is lacking is balance in the accurate treatment of Democrats and the man in position to be nominated to run against Bush this Fall.

It is good to be forthright and blunt about my feelings and opinions regardless of the spies and conservative operatives sure to bedevil me for these posts here, and well worth the aggrivation, because the important thing we need to do in this country is to get these devils out of the White House and to protect future Supreme Court appointments, and hopefully to get one or two of the branches of Congress into the hands of the Democratic Party.

Apologies my post is so long, and perhaps too intense. I am truly ignorant to DU board culture so take this with a grain of salt if I rub anyone here the wrong way.

"Society is like a stew. If you don't keep it stirred up, you get a lot of scum on top.", -- Ed Abbey
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:19 PM
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33. A Toast to your Ramblings of High Merit.
Sending some smiles, cold beer and smoked ribs and/or salmon
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:37 AM
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20. They stand for breaking people down
That is all they do. Every action, and interaction with a republican
seeks to destroy people's indpendence. It translates to "cheap
labour"... but that is the positive result.

In the republican utopia, masses of poor will take any job, and
once again, it wll become common to have 10's of household servants,
as having a good master who feeds one's family will supercede all
other aspects of social organization.

They stand for plantation owners rights, and a positive return to
slavery and the gentlemenly days of the old south, where everyone
knew their place. These multinational plantations that "are" the
core behind the party, must reduce workers rights throughout the
world to dirt, so that they can pick and choose whatever they want.

By ending the nation-state, in favour of these plantation-cults,
the primary evil of the world is put down, and we can go back to
trusting the divine right of kings embodied in soulless corporate
theocracy; not christian theocracy mind you, but corporate theocracy.

This is where every person must take up the religion of their
employer. Like landlords in ancient britain, the tithed workers
will have to adopt the state religion, or be outcaste. The first
step towards making sure that people have no alternative is to
reduce the power of being outcaste. This reductionism is their
core belief... to destroy social independence, to create a utopia
for the king.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:43 AM
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22. well said
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 03:59 AM
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25. SweetHeart is exactly one..... so correct......
On the money

but doesn't answer the question.... what are the Poz things? What are their vision, their plans that would help our standard of living get a lot better? Do they have any?

I guess SweetHeart is trying to say, they ain't got none. Oh Well, come, we go drink, eat pizza, sing.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:04 AM
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28. vicariously living the divine right of kings
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 05:05 AM by sweetheart
I think the positive benefit is to enjoy getting to say "we"
including the king(s). "Our" army kicks ass and breaks people
down. We are the best corporation. This ego thrill of being
on the king's team, is a positive benefit, when all the other
reinforcements are negative.

Our hoarde has conquored asia.. (a classic mongolian line...)
And on hearing this year's SOTU on the radio, i could not help
but notice the fervor of the mongolian hoarde, as the republicans
raised their barbaric cries for war.

The mongolians destroyed anyone who opposed them, living like a
collective hive where all had the divine right of the "one rightful
king" (Ghengis Khan). In the thrill of the king-cult, they
took the world's largest empire... and in its aftermath, there is
nothing left except some stone monuments and myths of great battle.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:11 PM
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32. How to Prevent Un Neccessary Waste: 101.003 Wars of Mass Desruction.
Under a major Dept called:

How to PREVENT Human Extinction, Sector #2

What are we doing? We are making war/conflicts where we really don't HAVE to. Worse, when all the Number$ are in, we come out as a loss.

The only people that gain from War, are the Arms Producing Companies and Cooperations, Members of Political Power(They get to look like Heros if victorious), and the Health Recovery Group(including Dr.'s all the way to therapy.

How dumb is THAT? We pay for a war, blood and $$$, and we get shit? annnnd the bill?
A war we really didn't need as the Iraqi Air Force/Ballistic Missile Group/Navy was not up to snuff. And worse, we seem to have gotten Snookered by all that talk of WMD. The Question. Just who is getting rich by this war? Follow the trail..................................--------> $
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:08 AM
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26. Corporate fascism -- and the privatization of the world.
Under the guise of "smaller government," the GOP has fed major deals and handouts to major corporations, be they in defense, education, health-care, etc.

This is why * will be tough to beat -- because the big money has such a sweet deal now, and they will be very reluctant to give it up.

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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:13 AM
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29. did you know that republican abroad have no contribution limits?
I did not know this. Any republican offshore can donate as much
money as they want to the campaign, unlike on-shore americans.
This above-the-law loophole is a bit bizarre, is it not? It is
almost a crminal malfesiance towards campaign finance controls...

corporate fascism, feudalism, call it what you will. They are the
old civil war south reemergent, and they must be stopped at any
cost. In this regard, my hat's off to the Shiite peoples of iraq
as they are fighting against evil, and may the blessings of their
gods make them victorious.... and in truth, they are fighting OUR
civil war, on their ground.

If they can destroy the occupation, the whole empire will crumble
and the kings credibility with it... which is why the WH can't even
conceive of losing... yet lose they must. Then we'll take the WH
on this side of the atlantic and pardon those people who fought the
real war.

Funny that, WW2 and 3 are really being fought by the peoples of
central asia, and yet we liberal westerners are the ultimate
beneficiaries of the victory... whilst they sustain heavy losses
and suffer our most malefic human waste, the king's empire builders.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:42 AM
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30. nihilism

They've looked at the world and there's nothing in it that they really like enough to patiently suffer for. Armageddon coming tomorrow? More a relief than a problem. The Brown Hordes invading? Eh, lock the borders and send in the helicopter gunships. The national economy in the shitter? Hey, let's cut our own taxes anyway and Screw Them. All that Jesus Talk? Uh, that's for more gullible folks.

Once the world doesn't really matter, there's only the Self to aggrandize. When the world's presence isn't a meaningful inner restraint the road lies open to Immoralism- everything is permitted yourself, rules are for other people to the extent that you can get them imposed and enforced selectively, and if you're clever you can get the selectivity you like.

It ruins society, it messes up the world, and in the end the people of the sort are bored with themselves and everything except those people who defeated them along the way. They then join FreeRepunklicans.com and vent for a while, and when that get boring there's only physical suicide left. The more cliffs the fewer Republicans, a natural correlation....

Ok, that wasn't positive. It was kinda depressing in a gleeful 'Thank Bob that's not me' sort of way. Something positive....nope, I got nothin'. Okay, actually maybe I do. Some of the more moderate Repubs are marginally sane and kindhearted and have high real hopes for their children that aren't utterly provincial. They both live in King of Prussia, Pennsylvania. Alright, I was just kidding about that last part. There's in fact only one of them, and she lives on the outskirts of Olathe, Kansas, and is a Republican simply because she has been overlooked in Democratic registration drives....

:-)

I think I need some coffee.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:58 PM
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37. Lemme pour you some Kona Coffee. Not bad for the $Buck.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 06:33 AM
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31. Accentuate the positive
Eliminate the negative
Latch on to the affirmative
Don't mess with Mister In-Between

After diligently searching the world over - high and low, far and wide (ok, I looked at a couple of websites) asking the same question of all that I met along the way (ok, I didn't exactly meet anyone other than my son passing by in the hallway) devoting my life (ok, more like an hour)- Here are my findings:

I found the motherlode of positivity in the form of what I call the playing cards of truth - "52 reasons to 're-elect' bush".

Truth is a beautiful thing. So, I very carefully avoided the deck of 'negative bush cards', noting they carried this warning:

The other thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the 'facts' are slanted or have taken a nice spin.

slanted facts? spin? oh, no, none of that for me. I'm only interested in the truth - I'm here to accentuate the positive.

So I present the 5 of spades:

He Strengthens Our Economy Despite Trials

"In the last three years, adversity has also revealed the fundamental strengths of the American economy. We have come through recession, and terrorist attack, and corporate scandals, and the uncertainties of war. And because you acted to stimulate our economy with tax relief, this economy is strong, and growing stronger."


Such a positive statement. No slanted facts, no spinning.

The answer to your question is - they clearly and positively stand for strength through adversity.

There you have it.

Oh, and those stacks of boxes surrounding him make such a nice backdrop. :snort:

-----
with reluctance, I'm adding the link (would really rather not give them the hits)
http://www.newtscards.com/george_w_bush_playing_cards.asp
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:55 PM
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35. Hi There, Mahalo for the 1st Poz thing presented.
"They clearly and positively stand for strength through adversity."

It appears we need a lot more than Strength these days as results suggest.

Diplomacy, Strength, Goals, etc go hand in hand. Wisdom is required.

While the Dollar is relatively strong, it could be much stronger...we have weakened our Dollar with huge over spending creating interest payments in the Billion$ of Dollars. Nat Debt is 7 Trillion and growing.

Adversity? The Challenge....Of coming through this 9/11 thing? Rec cession? Our existing systems worked well enough to recover.Bush seems to be bleating about a recovery and taking credit. The Tax Cut he sought and got resulted in some new jobs but not very many and of the quality lost during the first 3 years of the term. And, it is costing the Govt to run deficits, and with the war thingy, large deficits.

And worse yet.... The Cheap Afghan War effort. Just when we figured the Osama guy was cornered..... we start a war on Iraq. How cheap is THAT? If the Commanders in Afghanistan only had 1/5 of the Force in Iraq, Osama might have been caught already....after all, it was he that hit us, not Saddam. So instead of the main focus, we backburner Kabul and whereabouts. This guy seems to be using War as a toy. I think he Likes it.

Come, we go drink
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 07:57 PM
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36. Winning! - that's all
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