3 or more 9/11 Hijackers needed Clearance from State Department to Train!

[KoKo]

According to Kristan Breitweiser and the 9/11 Windows. State Department Clearance! Chris Matthews said, "are you sure didn't they just need a Visa?" She said, "No, State Department Clearance!"

And, she said "we know that money was being transferred in from Saudi Arabia in increments under $10,000 all Summer before the attack. Why isn't this being investigated?"


Matthews said he wasn't aware of this...and said he was glad he had met the Widows. :eyes: Matthews had never heard their questions? Give me a break...where has he been?

[wtf]

1. "State Department Clearance"

I heard this as well, what the fu*k?!?!

[KoKo]

2. It gets into other information that US State Department had agreement with

Saudi's to train some of their pilots in US since Reagan.

[Minstrel Boy]

6. Right. Because a number trained at secure US military installations.

This was reported in Newsweek and elsewhere one week after 9/11, then quickly photoshopped out of public memory. It's been kept alive only by the alternative media and "conspiracy theorists."

[rdfi-defi]

3. do we have any "credible" news documentation on this?

thanks koko

edit: documentation of state dept. approval, not widows statement

[proud patriot]

7. Here

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=U.S.+State+Department+authorization+of+911+Hijackers&spell=1

Want to help me find it ?

I'm looking over what's available as I type :hi:

[proud patriot]

4. My jaw dropped when she said this

3 or more of the 911 Hyjackers were trained at Military
flight Schools and needed "special" State Department
Clearance to attend ...

Who the Fuck Gave them Clearance ? :grr:

[CaptainClark23]

5. drip, drip, drip

Someday a real rain is gonna come and wash all the scum off our country...

[Media_Lies_Daily]

12. The only folks that I know who need a "special" State Department...

...Clearance to train at U. S. military schools are military officers of foreign countries.

Think about that for a moment.

Before 911, what countries routinely sent their officers to train in U. S. military schools?

[w4rma]

8. Holy mackerel. (nt)

:wow:

[Brotherjohn]

9. Well, I guess then by the Bushies's reasoning, we're a state sponsor of...

... terrorism! We are responsible for 9-11.

I mean, all it took to damn Iraq as sharing blame in 9-11 was the fact that a terrorist loosely affiliated with Al Qaeda (and possibly against them, and most likely an enemy of Hussein) sought treatment in a Baghdad hospital.

The man was Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, alleged head of Ansar Al-Islam. According to the BBC: "Intelligence reports indicated he was in Baghdad and - according to Mr Powell - this was a sure sign that Saddam Hussein was courting al-Qaeda, which, in turn, justified an attack on Iraq."

The neocon line went something like "He couldn't have been in Baghdad without the express permission of Hussein's Secret Service".

Well, I guess this State Department clearance makes Bush responsible for 9-11, using their own reasoning.

[BattyDem]

14. So does this mean ...

we have to bomb ourselves? :nuke:

[rdfi-defi]

21. not necessarily, but c. rice did say in her testimony

"we are against all forms of terrorism"

[Minstrel Boy]

10. Some info on the hijackers training at US military bases:

Mohammed Atta attended the International Officers School at Maxwell Air Force in Alabama. Saeed Alghamdi studied at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey. At least three other alledged 9/11 hijackers received training at secure US military installations.

This was reported as early September 16, 2001 by The New York Times, but has since been flushed down the official memory hole.

Lt. Col. Steve Butler was vice chancellor for student affairs at the Defense Language Institute while Alghamdi was a student. In a letter published May 26, 2002, Butler charged "Bush knew of the impending attacks on America. He did nothing to warn the American people because he needed this war on terrorism. What is...contemptible is the President of the United States not telling the American people what he knows for political gain." Butler was removed from his position and threatened with court martial.

According to its web site, the Defense Language Institute provides foreign language services to "Department of Defense, government agencies and foreign governments" to support "national security interests and global operational needs." Why was Alghamdi there? Why did he enter the US through a visa office run as a CIA operation?

Because 15 of the alledged hijackers received visas through Jeddah, bin Laden's home, headquarters of the bin Laden family business and Osama's Saudi base before his expulsion. Michael Springman, a 20-year veteran of the State Department who was stationed to Jeddah, says he was repeatedly ordered to approve unqualified visa applicants: terrorists who received training in the United States by leave of the CIA. "The State Department did not run the Consulate in Jeddah. The CIA did."

A CBC radio interview with Springman, from January 19, 2002, can be heard here: http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/dispatches/audio/020116_springman.rm . He claims his decisions to deny visas to unqualified applicants were frequently overturned for "national security reasons." In the interview, he claims he was told the CIA was working with bin Laden through the Jeddah office as a channel to send al Qaeda recruits to the United States for training as terrorists. He bluntly asserts that this partnership didn't end with the expulsion of the Soviets from Afghanistan, and continued as late as September 11, 2001. Springman raised hell, and lost his job. Why would the CIA be helping bin Laden send terrorists into the US after the Soviet defeat? Springman: "It's only a few thousand dead, and what's that against the greater gain for the United States in the Middle East?"

Springman, 20-year State Department veteran, suggests that those who died on September 11 "may have been sacrificed in order to further wider US geopolitical objectives."

http://www.madcowprod.com/index5.html
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/offi-j21.shtml
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=104&row=1
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2002/02/521.shtml
http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/dispatches/audio/020116_springman.rm


And from www.cooperativeresearch.org's "Some hijackers may have resided or trained at U.S. military installations":

iii Saeed Alghamdi.

(A) The address on his driver's license was 10 Radford Blvd. on Pensacola NAS, “a base road on which residences for foreign- military flight trainees are located.” The Pensacola base is known as the ‘Cradle of U.S. Navy Aviation,’ according to a high-ranking U.S. Navy source who was interviewed by Newsweek magazine.

(B) Someone with the name “Saeed Alghamdi” attended the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California.

...

v Mohammed Atta.

(A) Air Force spokesman Col. Ken McClellan said soon after the attacks that a man whose name was Mohamed Atta had attended the International Officer's School at Maxwell/Gunter Air Force Base in Montgomery, Ala.

vi Abdulaziz Alomari

(A) A man with the name Abdulaziz Alomari attended Brooks Air Force Base Aerospace Medical School in San Antonio, Texas. Abdulaziz Alomari was reportedly a former Saudi Arabian pilot.

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/wot/sept11/undersurveillance.html

Some other links, including the official fuzzy, semi-denial:

Similar uncertainties, according to the Department of Defense, continue to surround the possible association of hijackers with training programs for foreign military officers at U.S. military installations around the country. Although the Defense Department has acknowledged that people with the same names as those attributed to hijackers were associated with such programs at bases in Florida, Alabama and Texas, a spokeswoman said yesterday they weren't sure whether those individuals were in fact hijackers.
http://www.newsday.com/ny-usprob212376908sep21.story

Did Terrorist Pilots Train at U.S. Military Schools?
http://www.madcowprod.com/issue05.html

[KoKo]

11. Thanks Minstrel Boy. Thought you might have this info. I think the widows

know all of this, but they are very careful in what they say. But, to get it out in front of Matthews (not that he will do anything with it) in the Media, was a giant step forward.

All the folks covering up this information for YEARS in our govenment need to know they are on alert because this will come out beyond the internet.

The "widows" did say that the internet makes information much easier in answer to "will this take as long as the JFK investigations." They said the internet will make it faster.

BTW, Matthews brought up the FDR story about "letting Pearl Harbor happen on purpose." He said "he didn't believe it about FDR but was that what the widows were trying to get to with their questions?"

The gals were very clever and dodged that one nicely. But, they all agreed that the fault was "from the top down" that 9/11 happened.

So, I think LIHOP is going to be shown to have much truth down the road maybe sooner than we think.

[sir_captain]

13. How long were they in the country?

Would they have gotten State Dept. clearance under Bush or Clinton?

[KoKo]

15. One of the widows said they knew in 1999 that FBI said there was

a problem with this program because some of the Saudi's had problems. I believe the three that were hijackers were here for a couple of years, off and on. Which makes it worse because they were going to Germany and other places and yet still getting back in the US. Read Mistrel Boy's post here on this thread, for all the information on this.

[librechik]

18. yes n/t

[Minstrel Boy]

16. Amazing, isn't it, the stuff the Commission won't touch?

It's just one example of a line of inquiry the families requested the Commissioners ask, and what comes of it? Nothing.

[KoKo]

17. Hang in there...piece by piece it's getting out there. What "they" do

with it, is the question.

I feel good that I was here with folks who DID piece it all together and never let up and if I had to be "Underground" to do it, I'm glad.

We are an important part of history. We will be remembered as "Le Resistance!" imho...

[Gin]

19. I did not know they trained on Military Bases.....no wonder the FBI was

able to name names the day after 9/11. How sickening is that? The shit just gets deeper and deeper.

[Minstrel Boy]

20. Encouraging thoughts, thanks!

Thank God for the Net. Without it, how little we would know, and how alone we would feel.

[bobthedrummer]

22. LIHOP.

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