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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:49 PM
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Will Kerry throw the book at the current admin when he takes office?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:53 PM
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1. That's what this country needs to heal the wounds.
Don't know if that's in JFK's contract, though.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:55 PM
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2. No.
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 04:55 PM by DarkPhenyx
Probability is they will get a pass, or at worst a few low level flunkies will get fried, then pardoned.

If Kerry wins that is.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 04:58 PM
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3. That's what I worry too.. Can we the people sue them or something?
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:00 PM
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4. Without better evidence than we have now...
...or the support of more powerful people? Doubtful.

Did I mention that I can be a really bad cynic?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:00 PM
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5. Depends
on who controls the houses of Congress.

If Dems take over both houses, the Repubs will have to repay a huge Karmic debt.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:00 PM
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6. I heard the 9/11 families will ask the Kerry Administration for a Do Over
just like the GWB one didn't happen.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:13 PM
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10. with enough funding and time would be good
and then kerry should stay out of it as much as possible. they should maybe get a new team to investigate although i like some of them now especially tim roemer. another problem for kerry is the congress , even if democrats were to win back senate control,a nd less likely control of the house, they wouldn't have that many more seats than the republicans so to get things done on issues like healthcare, taxes, other programs he would need many on the republican side for support and him getting too directly involved in going after bush people would not help.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:17 PM
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18. soo many reason why Kerry must win n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:03 PM
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7. The President does not have that power.
And the Bush administration has not been prosecuted for anything.

If anyone is expecting revenge in the next term, you need to talk to your Congressperson. This is Congress territory.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:34 PM
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14. Certainly he has the power
He chooses the chief law enforcement officer in the country....the Attorney General...and the Attorney General has the power to prosecute anyone he can convince his Grand Jury to indict.

RC
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:09 PM
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8. No
We will write it down in the history books and move on.

There is something that keeps Dems from doing the things the Repubs do. If the situation were turned around, the book would have already been thrown by the media.

I would like to see a trial in the world court even though Bush & Co would never be there.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:11 PM
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9. He SHOULD but he probably won't
In the immortal words of the Anceint Romans,

"Let us flush this sewage into the Tiber!

Funny, but I feel EXACTLY that way about the Busheviks, 'cept I'd flush 'em into the Potomac, not drag them in chains all the way to Italy.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:23 PM
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11. they ought to put them on trial for all their crimes
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 05:24 PM by eablair3
but, they won't.

they'll want to "move on"

plus, they don't want the Repugs to do it to them at some other time. There's an unwritten understanding that these two parties rule, and that's it. They play off each other. Without one, you can't have the other.

They each will do what is necessary to make sure that only these two parties will be the parties with chances to win.

So, NO KERRY WON'T DO A DAMN THING TO ANY OF THE REPUGS AND ESP NOT TO BUSH, CHENEY, ASHCROFT, RUMSFELD, etc.

They'd have to put Clinton up and on trial as well for his international crimes and crimes against humanity. They won't do it.
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Demobrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:25 PM
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12. No.
That's why he's the nominee.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:21 PM
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22. Ouch, the truth stings.
Those coffin masturbaters stick together.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:29 PM
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13. Absolutely NOT
Edited on Thu Apr-08-04 05:35 PM by RapidCreek
That's why the DLC worked so hard to throw Dean to the wolves. It's important to maintain the status quo while giving the public the impression they have some say in the matter.

RC
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:42 PM
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15. How about the International Tribunal in the Hague?
Perhaps Kerry will agree to let Americans be tried. Since so many of *'s crimes have been committed against the entire world, the entire world should try him.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:47 PM
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16. Won't do diddly-squat to the traitors
I am troubled because after finding out about the 911 comm testimony today, I realized it matters not one iota. Both parties in DC are in this whole thing together.

All this crap on c-span is just a load of bulls**t to make us think it matters. It's a big show put on for our benefit to keep us working making money for them.

They are all a bunch of crooks and traitors. Well, maybe not all, but most of them, in both parties.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 05:53 PM
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17. I think not, and that doesn't really bother me.
I don't think Kerry will come out and rail against the Bush administration come November 4th (or Jan 20th or whatever). For one, Bush will have just lost an election, and so really, the biggest message would have already been sent. Kerry would look bad if he were still criticizing the President and/or his advisors after he beat them (handily, I hope) at the polls.

And I think he doesn't really need to. Kerry should start his administration achieving new things, defining himself, and establishing his presence in Washington. If he is truly to be a uniter (as I would like him to be) spewing partisan rhetoric will not help. There is that small change that Kerry could, for the duration of his presidency, have the widespread support that Clinton and Reagan enjoyed.

That said, he may prosecute Bush's advisors. I think the 9/11 commission will determine if the President was criminally negligent, but I don't think that will be outcome. For one, I think the system will be reluctant to actually prosecute a former POTUS, it seems to me that would be so much more work and so much more politically charged than prosecuting Condi Rice or someone like that. However, I'm not a lawyer, what are the legal issues in prosecuting a President?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:24 PM
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19. Never mind about daddyoh, this is what I refreshed in my memory today
about George, Jr.. Felonies include insider trading when he owned Harken energy. He conveniently sold two-thirds of his stock right before it crashed on the market. (Didn't they find Martha Stewart guilty of this?) He and Jeb were caught in a cocaine drug dealing sting in Miami in 1985. Of course many of the official records have been scrubbed. Then there are all of the more pedestrian charges of DUI, drug possession and being AWOL on active duty.

Shouldn't he be serving time?
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walmartsucks Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:34 PM
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20. Unfortunately no
The rich and powerful tend to take care of the rich and powerful
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 09:34 PM
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21. no, he won't
bush will give out pardons like mad to everyone.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-04 10:23 PM
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23. I doubt it. n/t
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