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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:15 PM
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HATE, Not WMD Pose Biggest Threat To U.S.

Found this post I made to UseNet back in March of 03. It makes me sick to read it knowing that Bush's insane policies are exactly what Bin Laden's needed for a worldwide jihad.

From: ulTRAX (ulTRAX@arabia.com)
Subject: HATE, NOT WMD POSE BIGGEST THREAT TO U.S.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc, alt.impeach.bush, alt.politics.bush, alt.politics.democrats.d, alt.politics.republican
Date: 2003-03-31 08:29:33 PST


Our Fearless Chicken Hawk leaders have it all backwards. Bush is going
about this war on terror as if there's some set number of WMD and
terrorists and each one found or killed is one less to worry about.
What he doesn't realize is that his real war must be against the
DYNAMIC that creates hatred for the US. His war will not make us safe.
It will render the term "victory" meaningless.

What Bush's myopia makes him incapable of understanding is it's not
WMD, per se, that pose the threat to the US... it's the will to use
them. We don't consider the WMD (nukes) of our allies to be a threat.
Nor is eliminating WMD from our enemies any guarantee of security. 911
shows that given enough hate, terrorists fanatically motivated to
inflict damage on us won't be stopped by not having access to
traditional WMD. They'll brainstorm, make their own, or look for ANY way to launch a devastating attack on the US. And why bother trying to
launch a smuggling operation to get traditional WMD into the US when,
as NOW with Bill Moyers reported, a terrorist could attack existing
storage facilities filled with toxic chemicals? What can become a WMD
is in the eye of the beholder.

911 proved there was already enough hatred in the Arab world for the
US based upon our policies up to 2001... including the sanctions
against Iraq. Bush would have been wise to ratchet DOWN the tension
not pour gas on the flames. But, foolishly, he did. There was his
unconditional support for the most hated man in the Arab world. Rather
than put Sharon on a choke chain, Bush approved as Sharon destroyed
the Palestinian Authority and reoccupied the West Bank and Gaza.
Bush's myopia would not allow him to see that Sharon's fascist
policies would only make us the ultimate target. Bush should have
demanded all illegal settlements be removed, even threatened
withholding US aid. Then there was the attack of Afghanistan. While
most considered it a legitimate act of self-defense.... it's what the
Islamic fanatics see that's the question here. Then there was Bush's
obsession with that has-been Saddam. Bush was so obsessed with Saddam
he's broken international war to launch a war of aggression that most
suspect has nothing to do with "liberating" anyone but is an
imperialist grab for oil. Bush's delusions that the invaders would be
showered with rose petals have not come to pass. People throughout the
Arab world now consider Saddam a hero. Bin Laden must be licking his
chops at the prospect of Pakistan with its nukes falling or flood of
new recruits.

I don't think anyone could have made a bigger f*cking mess than our
jackass President.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:22 PM
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1. Yup, I concur, the First Fraud has made a mess and no Spin will clean it
up as they are in such deep DENIAL delusion comes to mind. Pity.

The boy king blew it big time.
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:30 PM
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3. they'll blame the anti-war critics for emboldening the resistance
opihimoimoi wrote: "Yup, I concur, the First Fraud has made a mess and no Spin will clean it up as they are in such deep DENIAL delusion comes to mind. Pity."

Maybe they'll take a chapter from Mike Savage's playbook: that everything was going fine until the Democrats started criticizing the war and emboldened the anti-US resistance.

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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:28 PM
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2. Great points!
we lost all the sympathy we had after 9/11 in the ruins of Iraq(quite amazing)-a war that was entered into as a joke but the joke is now on us-sad-we are much less secure relying on arrogance instead of reason and human understanding-the disaster may continue for another decade due to the work of this president
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:38 PM
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4. Ignorance is the biggest threat to us all. n/t
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:14 PM
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5. ignorance or arrogance?
Given enough people in the Bush Junta... there's a good chance on having someone who had an insight into the mind of Bin Laden. I think the real problem with the Bush Junta is unadulterated arrogance driven by a deluded sense of being both invincible and infallible.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:25 PM
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6. Ignorance begets Arrogance
and all the rest of Negative Class.

Its come to the point where we Humans must stand up and be counted. As it is, In America, voters who take the time to reach the polls are the older ones. They vote self interest creating an imbalance.

The younger ones hardly vote and when they do, usually are influenced to the point of mootness.

Thus to bring back the balance of Sanity/Reason into Govt(fairness)
the YOUNG Voters must come to the polls and vote their interest, which is their FUTURE.

That they have not done this resulted in allowing the old ones(Master Pubs) spending monies through deficit spending and borrowing from the future, meaning, leaving the debt to the young ones. Wake up you young guys, you are being taken to the cleaners.
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ulTRAX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 10:04 AM
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7. ignorance as choice
Edited on Sat Apr-10-04 10:05 AM by ulTRAX
I don't see ignorance as a state of victimization... but a result of a series of life choices to not test one's own knowledge and beliefs. Why would one go though life with implicit delusions of infallibility?

Everyone has a hierarchy of values. For most challenging one's own world view, hence their cultural upbringing, is pretty low on that hierarchy. This is why is see ignorance flowing from arrogance not the other way around.

But we are straying from the topic of this thread.
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