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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:36 PM
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80 FBI Agents Raid Muslim IT Server in Texas, 9/10/01 story-THEY KNEW.
Edited on Fri Apr-09-04 10:25 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
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Guardian Unlimited online
Monday September 10, 2001

Five hundred websites - many of them with an Arab or Muslim connection - crashed last Wednesday when an anti-terrorism taskforce raided InfoCom Corporation in Texas.

The 80-strong taskforce that descended upon the IT company included FBI agents, Secret Service agents, Diplomatic Security agents, tax inspectors, immigration officials, customs officials, department of commerce officials and computer experts.

Three days later, they were still busy inside the building, reportedly copying every hard disc they could find. InfoCom hosts websites for numerous clients in the Middle East, including al-Jazeera (the satellite TV station), al-Sharq (a daily newspaper in Qatar), and Birzeit (the Palestinian university on the West Bank). It also hosts sites for several Muslim organisations in the United States, among them the Islamic Society of North America, the Muslim Students Association, the Islamic Association for Palestine, and the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/journalist/story/0,7792,549590,00.html
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(I'm reposting this because I think it is hugely incriminating and suggests many interesting things that Condi didn't reveal.)

This appears to be the first action taken one day after the September 4th counter-terrorism task force meeting.

It suggests that they definitely knew of imminent domestic threats from radical Muslim militants.

It was also highly visible with press conferences suggesting that they might have been doing some butt covering for what was about to hit us one week later on 9/11 so they wouldn't look totally surprised.

But since Condi didn't tout this raid as a sign of her effectiveness, it suggests that 9/11 was too horrendous to admit to having the urgent foreknowldge that inspired this massive raid.

This massive interagency effort IS EVIDENCE THEY KNEW and the hundreds of people involved with organizing and analyizing this raid know and can tell the 9/11 whitewash commission plenty.


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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 09:52 PM
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1. You never hear about this
And you should. I always thought this timing was highly suspicious of some sort of foreknowledge.

You can go either way--giant fishing operation or large disruption of Arab communications and business just before the attack. Or both.

I don't think I have ever seen any significant follow-up, beyond that some of the Infocomm principals being put on the export control (banned) list.

Never comes up!

I looked into this a bit as things were heating up in Afghanistan. I had some questions to do with computers going to Pakistan (internet cafes), and also maybe a link to hosting for Saudi bin Ladin Group. But those are peripheral (and may just have been my thinking, not factual) to the massive raid just before 9/11.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-09-04 10:26 PM
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2. Kick. This has me ripping. n/t
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 01:51 AM
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3. Texas Nexus kick. N/T
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:10 AM
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4. I dug into this story before the days before the WTC was hit
Know who was behind the task forces to shut down the Muslim sites and disrupt their communications? Notice the rather interesting emphasis on things Palestinian? Remember what those who were caught filming and cheering said to the arresting officers? "We are not your problem, the Palestinians are your problem".

The men behind these task forces were Daniel Pipes and Steve Emerson. It was my first introduction to them - again, before 9-11.

This is one of the ugliest secrets of the 9-11 tragedy.

Our conclusions are different though. At the time this was happening, some of us found the entire thing extremely odd. I was particularly disturbed because it seemed as if the Muslims were being set up for something.

LIHOP? MIHOP? or?

How many of those hijackers were found alive again?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:37 AM
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8. Muslim/Arab "chatter" about 9/11
Could well have been on those servers.

This was notably al-Jazeera's hosting. Less significant (I think?), though interesting, they were also the host, remarkably enough, for the .iq top level domain--the country of Iraq.

The owners of Infocom were prosecuted for selling some sort of computers to banned countries Syria and Libya. This was also supposedly to go after charities funding Hamas (Holy Land Foundation).

That strikes me as cover.

These agents were there to get hands on with the data of the largest Muslim US web host.

I don't know that I'd give Emmerson/Pipes much credit--they'd been saying the same stuff for years. Yes, there was that WSJ article (editorial?) about web hosts, but I'd say that's Sharon/Bush cooperation, if indeed they were going after Holy Land in the raid.

Remember also there were at least two suicide bombings in Israel while Bush was vacationing. One was a NY owned pizza chain, another the Wall Street Cafe. I sure as hell noted that at the time, being in NY. Meanwhile USA v. Usama bin Laden had just finished (also in NY) and we were waiting sentencing....

And I could go on. But there were more than an few blips that suggested something was up to me, just your regular citizen. Infocom was one of them. Clearly, anybody in a Natl. Sec. loop knew that too.
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:13 AM
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5. LIHOP is finally "in"
It's on AirAmerica, it's on Jon Stewart.

It's in the PDB which Condi couldn't cover up.

It's on the front page of Friday's NYTimes and Wash Post - in keeping with their dignified stylebook.

And it's all over DU the past day or two. Keep the review of the LIHOP evidence! Now is the time when people are starting to put the pieces together.

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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:37 AM
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6. Kick
:kick:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:42 AM
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7. Powerful circumstantial evidence
Not a smoking gun, per se, but taken together with the rest of it...
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 09:09 AM
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9. Really got to think about it now, 80 people?
The day before :wtf:
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:41 PM
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10. The raid is actually 9/5/01, day after the first anti-terror meeting. n/t
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:05 PM
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11. Another complication: Condi's 9/11 speech on Missile Defense was upstaged.
The PNAC neocons most cherished tactic for world domination besides owning the Middle East oil is the weaponization of space, the ultimate 'air dominance.'

That's what they were laser-focused on (pun intended) instead of the 'unswatted flies' that killed 3000 Americans and blew up the Pentagon.

So this 9/11 catastrophe put their Star Wars plans on the back burner where they had put Clinton's and Richard Clarke's anti-terrorism efforts.

It seems that LIHOP, MIHOP, and systemic incompetence were ALL exploited at the same time and used to increase the defense budget and remilitarize and weaponize the entire American public culture so the 'anti-terror' efforts could feed their Star Wars efforts.

Look at the first weapon in space going up this summer and realize that this is what these neocons REALLY WANT to use to take over the world:

(check out the links to many sources at the bottom of the page including the US Missile Defense Agency, NASA, the PNAC, ABC News, Washington Post, etc.)

http://www.tmtmetropolis.ru/stories/2004/04/09/120.html
>snip<

And the boys in Space Command are just getting warmed up. They wowed the salivating Bushist faithful in Congress with highly detailed plans for a whizbang space arsenal led by the "Rods From God" -- bundles of tungsten rods fired from orbiting platforms, hurtling toward earth at 3,700 meters per second, accurate within a range of 8 meters and able to destroy even the most hardened targets, the Center for Defense Information reports. They could be launched at only a few minutes' notice at any target on the planet.

"God's Rods" will be accompanied by orbiting lasers, "hunter-killer" satellites, and space bombers that needn't bother with silly-billy legal worries about "overflight rights" from other countries, but can descend out of the ether to swoop down on any uppity nation that displeases the world-Caesar in Washington.

This belligerent Buck-Rogering, long a gleam in many a militarist's eye, gained relentless momentum with the arrival of Don Rumsfeld as Pentagon war chief. In the late 1990s, while helping Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz plot their "Project for the New American Century" -- wholesale militarization of U.S. policy, aggressive war (including the invasion of Iraq even if Saddam Hussein was no longer there), "global dominance" of "vital energy resources," etc. -- Rumsfeld also headed a "blue-ribbon panel" of the usual Establishment worthies looking into "the role of space in national security." Their conclusion? You guessed it: Rummy said America must garrison the heavens to prevent a -- wait for it -- "space Pearl Harbor."

Oddly enough, over at PNAC, at about the same time, Rummy and Cheney were speaking openly about the possibility of a "new Pearl Harbor" that would "catalyze the American people" into supporting their plans, which were published in September 2000. Space weaponization -- via "missile defense" -- was an essential part of the scheme. Once in office, they shoveled billions to their favored defense cartels and fast-tracked space-weapon programs. Indeed, National Security Advisor Condi Rice intended to crown these early efforts with a major speech enshrining the Bush Regime's "top priority" for national security: "missile defense."
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:07 PM
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13. Kick for clarity on LIHOP, MIHOP and INCOMPETENCE.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:08 PM
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12. That is one of the mysteries I've always had concerns about.
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