9/11 and the Smoking Gun (new Asia Times article discussing LIHOP!)

[paulthompson]

Looks like the LIHOP theory (Bush let 9/11 happen on purpose) is breaking into the mainstream. One reporter at the Asia Times at least appears to be into it. The Asia Times is an online newspaper, but well respected, kind of an Asian version of Salon.

Here's two articles that are good summaries of a lot of evidence, and just came out yesterday:

9-11 AND THE SMOKING GUN
Part 1: 'Independent' commission
By Pepe Escobar

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FD07Aa01.html

Part 2: A real smoking gun
By Pepe Escobar

Part 1: 'Independent' commission

If the 9-11 Commission is really looking for a smoking gun, it should look no further than at Lieutenant-General Mahmoud Ahmad, the director of the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) at the time.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/FD08Aa01.html

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Note that the second article talks about the ISI and Mahmood Ahmed, something I've been pushing for a long time, for instance with this essay:

http://cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essaysaeed.html

I'm glad to see some reporters are starting to pick up on those facts.

Pepe Escabar is a good reporter who has been around for a while and knows a lot of scuttlebut in Asia. For instance, he wrote this about bin Laden just before 9/11:

http://www.atimes.com/ind-pak/CH30Df01.html

[aquart]

1. Merde on a shingle. My goodness.

[scottxyz]

2. Amazing article! Foreign press is so mind-blowing!

"There are devastating cases of conflict of interest in the commission. Chairman Thomas Kean may be the most obvious. The US$1 trillion lawsuit filed in August 2002 by the families of the victims of September 11 includes two of Kean's business partners among the accused: Saudi billionaires Khalid bin Mahfouz (who is Osama bin Laden's brother-in-law, no less), and Mohammed Hussein al-Amoudi."


:wtf:

[Minstrel Boy]

3. Pepe Escobar is one of the best on Central Asia and

the "War on Terror." I like how he develops the al-Qaeda-ISI-CIA nexus. Having him come out is a very important breakthrough.

[paulthompson]

6. Yep

I'm really psyched about that. That nexus is so key to understanding everything!

[NJCher]

4. yes, it's now been put together...waiting for it to spread...

Referring to 9/11:

And if the intelligence elite in Pakistan knew it, an intelligence elite in Saudi Arabia knew it, as well as an intelligence elite in the US.

(from Part II)

...and so our own Bob Graham, despite the comments he made to the press in the past, is actually covering up for Bush?

As it is widely known, Graham and Goss were co-heads of the joint House-Senate investigation that proclaimed there was "no smoking gun" as far as President George W Bush having any advance knowledge of September 11.

and

Mahmoud did disappear. He lives in near seclusion in Rawalpindi. And he is definitely not talking. Graham and Goss may not be interested in talking to him either. Because he may be the ultimate September 11 smoking gun.

I'm saving these articles. They are comprehensive and a "must" for getting others to putting the pieces together.

The author says that for now the "genie is in the bottle." But for how long?!?



Cher

[paulthompson]

5. Save em

This is a great article, especially the second one. I dare any newspaper in the US to write this, as the Asia Times does:

"This whole affair is not about whether Clarke committed "perjury"; whether Rice was really up to her job; or whether George W Bush knew something and then "forgot" about it. The families of September 11 victims, US public opinion, the demonized Islamic world, the whole world for that matter, all everybody wants to know is what really happened on September 11. The only party that does not seem interested in getting to the bottom of it is the Bush administration. The official fable of 19 kamikaze Arabs turning Boeings into missiles with military precision, armed only with box cutters and a few flight lessons and directed from an Afghan cave by a satellite phone-shy bin Laden simply does not hold. The commission is not asking the really hard questions."

[Minstrel Boy]

7. This needs a big kick. Read the articles! n/t

[SpiralHawk]

8. When Paul Thompson says "Smoking Gun"

DU listens.

kick.

[Minstrel Boy]

9. another kick for the bitter truth. n/t

[SpiralHawk]

10. Can you see the smoke signals?

Read with all your senses.

Smoke signals.

kick

[buycitgo]

15. did you hear Arundhati on tonight with Laura Flanders?

[GeronimoSkull]

11. excellent

ain't journalism nifty?

[JohnyCanuck]

12. It is when it is practiced the way it is supposed to be.

Instead of being used as a means of state propaganda as demonstrated by the corporate media whores who are nothing more than paid shills for corporate America.

TELEVISION AND THE HIVE MIND
by Mack White

<snip>

It is not just commercials that manipulate us. On television news as well, image and sound are as carefully selected and edited to influence human thought and behavior as in any commercial. The news anchors and reporters themselves are chosen for their physical attractiveness--a factor which, as numerous psychological studies have shown, contributes to our perception of a person's trustworthiness. Under these conditions, then, the viewer easily forgets--if, indeed, the viewer ever knew in the first place--that the worldview presented on the evening news is a contrivance of the network owners--owners such as General Electric (NBC) and Westinghouse (CBS), both major defense contractors. By molding our perception of the world, they mold our opinions. This distortion of reality is determined as much by what is left out of the evening news as what is included--as a glance at Project Censored's yearly list of top 25 censored news stories will reveal. If it's not on television, it never happened. Out of sight, out of mind.

Under the guise of journalistic objectivity, news programs subtly play on our emotions--chiefly fear. Network news divisions, for instance, frequently congratulate themselves on the great service they provide humanity by bringing such spectacles as the September 11 terror attacks into our living rooms. We have heard this falsehood so often, we have come to accept it as self-evident truth. However, the motivation for live coverage of traumatic news events is not altruistic, but rather to be found in the central focus of Cantril's War of the Worlds research--the manipulation of the public through fear.

There is another way in which we are manipulated by television news. Human beings are prone to model the behaviors they see around them, and avoid those which might invite ridicule or censure, and in the hypnotic state induced by television, this effect is particularly pronounced. For instance, a lift of the eyebrow from Peter Jennings tells us precisely what he is thinking--and by extension what we should think. In this way, opinions not sanctioned by the corporate media can be made to seem disreputable, while sanctioned opinions are made to seem the very essence of civilized thought. And should your thinking stray into unsanctioned territory despite the trusted anchor's example, a poll can be produced which shows that most persons do not think that way--and you don't want to be different do you? Thus, the mental wanderer is brought back into the fold.

http://www.mackwhite.com/tv.html

[berry]

13. Kick!

Just in the time it took me to read all the links, this thread slipped to page 2. We should all keep an eye on it today and tomorrow, and keep it kicked to the top.

(Asia Times is a lifesaver--I can vouch for the high quality of its reporting on Korea too.)

[JohnyCanuck]

14. kick

kick

[KYDEM]

16. Kick

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