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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:21 AM
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This is RICH.. Rightwingers opining on W's TRIAL at the ICC
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In a Parallel Universe Called 'What If' (Kerry elected, Kofi Annan says Bush to be tried by ICC)
Town Hall ^ | April 10, 2004 | Kathleen Parker


Posted on 04/09/2004 9:51:29 PM PDT by quidnunc


President-elect John F. Kerry's rise to the nation's highest office came as little surprise following almost four years of remonstrations against President George W. Bush for his bizarre attack on the defenseless people of Afghanistan.

Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran, was the right man for a nation outraged by the Bush administration's pre-emptive war, which, it now seems clear, was based on highly speculative intelligence that Saudi Arabian-born terrorist Osama bin Laden was planning an attack on the United States.

Absent absolute proof of such an imminent attack, Bush's Sept. 10 bombing of Afghanistan earned him international condemnation and, in all likelihood, an indictment in coming weeks. U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, appearing last night on "Larry King Live," said the United Nations' International Criminal Tribunal likely would bring charges of genocide against Bush.

Bush also faces federal charges at home for his baseless arrest of 19 foreign nationals, many of them native Saudis, whose "crime" was attending American flight schools. The Council on American-Islamic Relations has joined the American Civil Liberties Union in a joint suit against both Bush and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, charging racial profiling, unlawful arrest and illegal search and seizure.

Kerry's campaign mantra — "You go to war because you have to, not because you want to" — clearly resonated with Americans as they tried to make sense of Bush's Sept. 10 attack on Afghanistan. Neither the president, nor national security adviser Condoleezza Rice convincingly defended their actions during the recent "9-10 Commission" hearings, which Congress ordered in response to public outcry.

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Source: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/kathleenparker/kp20040410.shtml
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:27 AM
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1. Kathleen Parker
My favorite article of hers was soon after 9-11. She admits that there really was a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, but she says it's all in the past, and we should move on. Like, we should have let Ted Bundy go because his murders were all in the past (then again, isn't everything?)

So now she's saying basically that yeah, Bush should have known, but if he had tried to do anything he would have gotten no credit for it, so it's good that he didn't try? I guess, Republican "logic" is a bit hard to follow at times.

Does she understand that the VRWC allowed Bin Laden to take root, and allowed Hussein to test the limits of his bonds, since our Congress was no longer interested in doing its job? Probably not.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 05:18 AM
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6. What I find amusing about the type of cognitive dissonance
displayed by Parker, is that she's writing to appeal to us in the hopes that she can hold back the onslaught. If we didn't listen to her before, we certainly aren't going to now.

Parker, I suggest you wear iron-clad underwear because you have this one coming to you.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:27 AM
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2. The 9/11 failures are really getting to them. :-)
No one would post this pathetic fairy tale otherwise.
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notbush Donating Member (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:33 AM
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3. It does make some valid points(The original story)
which the Clinton addm. has referred to.
If either Clinton or Bush had used real, preemptive force, against the Talaban in Afganistan....They would have been pilloried by the press.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 02:40 AM
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4. Nuh uh. Only if CLINTON had.
And what would be the reason to attack the entire nation of Afghanistan on September 10? The arrested 19 were Saudi and Egyptian, right?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 03:53 AM
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5. exactly.
I read the FR column tonight, but they don't go near 3 issues.

(1) What were the Republicans focused on in the 5 years leading up to 9/11? It sure as hell wasn't terrorism and they gave Clinton no support in dealing with terror.

(2) Bush's complete disregard of the Hart-Rudman Recommendations to address terror in the US. Not one public mention of terror in the 9 months he was President. His 42% vacation time and 30 days on the ranch after the 8/6 briefing.

(3) The Bush-bin Laden relationship. Why aren't they interested in why we dodn't attack Dubai on 9/12/01? That's where the OBL/Wahhabi connection is. That's where the funding of terror comes from. Instead, Bush jumps on Afghanistan and Iraq, neither country that had anything to do with 9/11. COuld it be that Jr. and Sr. are compromised in their relationship with Saudi Arabia? Id that why we gave the Saud's passage out of the US after 9/11?


Somehow that is all overlooked and forgiven....because it's the fault of Clinton. Reality-deniers, the likes, I've never seen.











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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 06:35 PM
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12. It wouldn't have taken a preemptive strike on Afghanistan
That's what drives me crazy about Bushites. They can't imagine anything that doesn't involve killing large numbers of innocent people.

If Bush had simply alerted the FAA, 9-11 may have been prevented. If he had kept our Air Force on alert, we could have stopped at least the second and third planes from striking, and frankly, he had plenty of time to stop the first one if he'd been prepared. he could have followed up the numerous leads, he could have ordered the various intelligence agencies to coordinate information (as Clinton often did), he could have met with Richard Clarke at least ONCE before 9-11, he could have continued to put pressure on Bin Laden by not calling back the strike forces that were near Bin laden, he could have listened to the warnings from Egypt, Russia and Germany, he could have ordered his embassies in Afghanistan to be on the lookout... That last suggestion would have stopped 9-11 in itself, since one of the Taliban's officers had tried to tell our embassy EXACTLY what was happening and was turned away (and yes, the White House has admitted to that story, as well).

Going back a little further, the Republicans could have tried to work with Clinton to fight terrorism rather than trying to destroy him with their witch hunts. Every single idea that Bush and the Republicans adopted after 9-11 to fight terrorism was an idea proposed by Clinton and the Democrats before 9-11 and rejected by the Republicans, from Homeland Security to the Gore Aviation Bill. If these scum had cared about running the country rather than trying to assassinate a president too successful to actually beat, we wouldn't be in any of the mess we are in.

Clinton warned them, he gave them the tools to fight terrorism, and Bush ignored them.

The only point I get from Parker's article is that Republicans are too damned stupid to be allowed to manage anything, and certainly too damned stupid to be in charge of national security.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 05:40 AM
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7. They're very good fiction writers.
Maybe some of them could actually make a living off of it, instead of living in their parents basements.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 06:12 AM
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8. In a way....
They are admitting to LIHOP. They are saying that even if Bush knew what was coming acting upon would have been a bad idea because he would have been condemned.

That is reprehensible. As President, acting to save your countrymen is the right thing to do EVEN IF YOU GET PILLORIED FOR IT. That is what honorable people do, even if it means losing an election. It is puzzling that there are humans that don't understand that.
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 06:58 AM
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9. Does it ever occur to these bloodthirsty
killers of small children that there might be some OTHER response to a threat than by bombing SOME village SOMEWHERE???
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:23 AM
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10. Well, at least Kathleen Parker is objective
:eyes:

Honestly, if I want to see everything that is wrong with the other side's position, or to make myself aware of any holes in their logic, I need look no further than her latest "advertisement."
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-10-04 07:53 AM
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11. hey SoCal
before I put on my glasses I though the picture on your post was an alligator. :D
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