BFEE allowing Iraq to escalate?

[CaptainClark23]

something stinks here. while we might not like them, there are some highly intelligent and sophisticated minds working the machinery for this administration. if there weren't the BFEE wouldn't be quite as dangerous as it is.

We can't really think that they would be stupid enough to allow for long the perception that they are sitting back doing butkis while Iraq explodes on top of our soldiers, and the soldiers of other nations.

Unless...we are seeing a remix of 9.11/Reichstag fire. 9.11 gave them the patriotic fervor and support they needed to implement their nefarious policies and plans.

Perhaps they are allowing Iraq situation to deteriorate to the point that we lose alot of troops, all at once. Already we see the righteous anger rising in America..those damn ungrateful Iraqis! We are starting to see media covering coffins. Do you really think the masters of media are having a change of heart? Or are they allowing the image to soak into American psyche, as preface to a cataclysmic event that kills hundreds to thousands at a shot.

This would effectively wipe any 9.11 investigation off the air, and America would demand revenge. And so on to the next phase of PNAC's evil century.

A tactical nuke used against entrenched US forces, smuggled in through "Syria" or "Iran" would be all they need.

The October surprise might not be here, folks, it might be there. This way BFEE lives up to promise of defending Homeland while still getting the catalyst they seek.

thoughts, disparaging remarks?

[soothsayer]

1. nah, I just think their stupid, short-sighted plan is falling apart

They bit off more than they can chew, it's a quagmire, and we're stuck in it.

The only thing that keeps these folks from global domination is that they are truly inept.

[CaptainClark23]

3. ineptitude may be just as dangerous

think cornered wounded animals. desperation. I don't trust these bastards not to do anything they can to keep the agenda going here. they have already demonstrated a clear indifference to human life. whats a few more?

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. I think that's why when they rotated the troops

they sent the Marines back to Fallujia. That was no peace keeping force they were sending in and I'm sure they went fully equiped for battle.

[CaptainClark23]

4. fully equipped, except for sufficient ammo and armor

with no explanation other than "oh, the military has ALWAYS been that way" no biggie

[BeFree]

5. In that scenario...

If that happened, the only people we could count on would be the military brass. The brass would be so pissed that they would join us peace freaks in a NY minute.

While they may have managed to pull off 9/11... so far.. it is evident they really aren't that smart. They are all beginning to say "We didn't expect the people in Iraq to stand up for their rights". They are toast.

[CaptainClark23]

6. thinking on the fly

it still bothers me the lack of response or acknowledgment from the admin. I'm not proposing that the "Master Plan" called for this shitstorm in Iraq. I'm sure they believed they would succeed. But when it has become apparent that its a failure, they need to formulate a new plan. One that incorporates Bush's dropping numbers. That can address the 9.11 issue seeing light of day. one that will lead to a "success" in Iraq.

its obvious that pulling out will be a failure. trying to stay and fight and control iraq will be a failure. So what are their options for coming through this on top?

disclosure - I believe they were complicit in 9.11 attacks.

so if they did it once, in NYC and DC, how hard would it be to create a disaster in Iraq? Not very, I would think.

[BeFree]

8. But killing thousands of soldiers?

You may be right, they may be thinking of doing something totally fucking crazy, again. But if they kil our soldiers, do ya think the military are gonna roll over this time? Like I say, given your scenario, the military brass is all we will be able to count on.

[CaptainClark23]

9. they needed high-level military

cooperation for 9.11

they wouldn't need it here, just a suitcase nuke.

too, the attack on the pentagon killed military, but not in the numbers we would perhaps see in this scenario. and boots on the ground hold a special distinction in the hearts and minds of military that pentagon staffers do not. I would guess that the military would be leading the calls for hard military response to such an attack.

btw, not trying to argue a heart-felt theory here. I'm not sure of the feasibility either, just postulating.

[BeFree]

10. 10-4

In the LIHOP scenario a few brass, were, at the very least, tricked into letting 9/11 get by the radar. But with war going on in Iraq, and many, many intel people working hard, blowing up thousands of our troops would be almost impossible to cover up. That's my theory, anyway. Peace.

Bring our troops home, NOW!

[mzmolly]

7. I dont think so. I think that they feel their ideology superceeds reason.

"God is on our side" etc... Therefore, while they are brilliant in many ways politically speaking, their arrogance has led them/us/the people of Iraq into this horrible mess.