I NEED A LINK TO THE ACTUAL PDB!!!

[matcom]

i want the fucking TEXT of this thing. is it printed??????

THIS COULD BE VERY IMPORTANT!!! (think Dadcom)

THANKS

[displacedtexan]

1. Jeez, me, too!

Where TF is it?

[grasswire]

2. not on WH web site....

...don't see it anywhere yet. There is, however, a page of talking points on the WH web site. (See thread in LBN)

[MissB]

3. It has only been out a half an hour.

I'm sure the media will have it up on their site within the next.

Holy shit.

[matcom]

4. KICK

THIS COULD BE HUGE!!!!!!!!!!

[displacedtexan]

5. David Gregory reading it on MSNBC.

Of course, Gregory speaks French. Can't be trusted, you know.

[MissB]

6. CNN just has the major points but not the document. (nt)

[displacedtexan]

7. Gregory on MSNBC just said

something about 'hijacking planes and surveillance of NYC buildings.' Anybody catch that?

[frank frankly]

8. holy shit

if it says NYC then bush is GONE

[Stephanie]

21. Remember they were sentencing some bombers in lower Manhattan that week

At the courthouse downtown by City Hall, blocks from the WTC. I think they were the embassy bombers - can't remember. I think it was the blind sheik? Supposed to be sentenced that very week - sentencing postponed after the attacks, of course.

[MissB]

9. Yes

He said that there were reports of surveillance of federal buildings in NY by Al Qaida. I think. Can't wait to see the actual PDB.

[maddezmom]

20. Allan Lichtman said the same on BBC

hope folks read the papers tomorrow.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

11. WTF. If true, that's worse than I thought it would be.

[frank frankly]

16. me, too

BUSH, YOU FUCKING TRAITOR!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

17. Here is the paragraph from the Faux link....

"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."

Bad for Junior...good for America.

[kentuck]

25. "..., including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."

What does that tell you?

[maddezmom]

27. they knew something very, very, very BIG was going to happen

and dropped the ball. :(

[wndycty]

10. This is the best I can do at this time, hold your nose its from FAUX

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116766,00.html

[MissB]

12. No question they received it first, eh?

Sheesh.

I hated clicking on that link. Type faster, you CNN hacks.

[qanda]

14. Ah, I'll wait...

But thanks anyway. :)

[Gman]

13. here it is at Faux

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,116766,00.html

[matcom]

18. GOTTA get a better source than FAUX

thanks but sorry. will NOT use them as a 'source'

[displacedtexan]

19. Text from Faux

The following is a redacted text of the presidential daily briefing from August 6, 2001:


Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.

Clandestine, foreign government, and media reports indicate Bin Ladensince 1997 has wanted to conduct terrorist attacks in the U.S. Bin Laden implied in U.S. television interviews in 1997 and 1998 that his followers would follow the example of World Trade Center bomber Ramzi Yousef and "bringthe fighting to America."

After U.S. missile strikes on his base in Afghanistan in 1998, Bin Ladentold followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington, according to a service.

An Egyptian Islamic Jihad (EIJ) operative told serviceat the same time that Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative'saccess to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike.

The millennium plotting in Canada in 1999 may have been part of Bin Laden's first serious attempt to implement a terrorist strike in the U.S. Convicted plotter Ahmed Ressam has told the FBI that he conceived the idea to attack Los Angeles International Airport himself, but that BinLaden lieutenant Abu Zubaydah encouraged him and helped facilitate theoperation. Ressam also said that in 1998 Abu Zubaydah was planning hisown U.S. attack.

Ressam says Bin Laden was aware of the Los Angeles operation.

Although Bin Laden has not succeeded, his attacks against the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 demonstrate that he preparesoperations years in advance and is not deterred by setbacks. Bin Laden associates surveilled our Embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam as early as 1993, and some members of the Nairobi cell planning the bombings were arrested and deported in 1997.

AI Qaeda members — including same who are U.S. citizens — have resided in and traveled to the U.S. for years, and the group apparently maintains asupport structure that could aid attacks.

Two Al Qaeda members found guiltyin the conspiracy to bomb our embassies in East Africa were U.S. citizens, and a senior EIJ member lived in California in the mid-1990s.

A clandestine sourcesaid in 1998 that a Bin Laden cell in New Yorkwas recruiting Muslim-American youth for attacks.

We havenot been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Shaykh" 'Umar' Abd aI-Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns ofsuspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations forhijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance offederal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers Bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May sayingthat a group or Bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.

[truizm]

22. Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of

suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

[MissB]

15. CNN has it up now (nt)

[displacedtexan]

24. Those last 2 paragraphs tell it all. Why isn't Rudy screaming?

NYC at least deserved fair warning! Shit!

[MissB]

26. Rudy has probably known that for some time (nt)

[Gman]

28. The ghost of John O'Neill is smiling

but will not rest yet.

[librechik]

23. It's been redacted! (names of countries blocked) n/t

[kentuck]

29. And how do you interpret this very last sentence of the PDB ??

"CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May sayingthat a group or Bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

[Sparkly]

35. Three-month-old "history?"

Everything involved in this raises so many *more* questions!

What were the CIA and FBI doing and reporting? Why didn't the FBI apparently know about the alert the Bushies say they gave them? Why didn't the Bushies know they didn't get the message (assuming there was one)? And, what happened to the story in Newsweek, saying that the Bushies told the FBI to stand down its surveillance of Saudis suspected of terrorism in the US?

It just gets curiouser and curiouser. I hope the commission is asking *all* the questions.

[Mike Niendorff]

30. link (cnn.com)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/04/10/august6.memo/index.html



key excerpt:

-----

We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a ---- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of "Blind Sheikh" Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.

Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

-----


MDN

[kentuck]

31. Does this sound "historical" ?

The last two paragraphs of the PDB...
=====================================
"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."

[alvis]

34. When does impeachment begin?

Doesn't sound too historical to me.

including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.

The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related.

I'm a little livid right now. :mad:

[kentuck]

37. This is present tense - not in the past....

"...The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations..."

[Duncan Grant]

39. And they have the nerve to have a national convention in NY?

I can't believe they'd show their faces on the streets of NY!

"Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."

Hijacking. Attacks. Buildings. (1+1=2) :grr:

I'm speechless.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

32. PDF link

http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf

[scottxyz]

38. I downloaded this PDF of the PDB - but it wouldn't open!

from CNN... and it wouldn't open in my Adobe Acrobat!

Anyone else have this problem?

I don't want the retyped transcript - I want the original scanned facsimile as a PDF.

Anyone have this that opens?

This one
http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf
wouldn't open on my machine after I right-clicked and downloaded...
and I have had no problem doing this with TONS of other PDFs.

[TeeYiYi]

42. It opened for me. .....n/t

TYY

[RedEarth]

33. Thanks for the link.....duers!!!!!!.....LOL...george can only read 2 pages

a day...don't want to overburden this moron with too much information he might go back on the bottle.

[polmaven]

36. And besides...

What inconvenient timing! You know, with George just itchen' to go on vacation and all! I mean, it was already August 6th, and George had expected vacation on the 1st. Tomorrow was gonna be 200 whole days since he started playin' president, and he hadn't had a vacation yet. It just wasn't FAIR!!!!! That stuff about the guy with the funny name (who ever heard of a guy's last name startin' with a small b, anyway)could wait 'till he got back from the ranch, couldn't it? After all.......tsk!

[scottxyz]

40. Of course - The facsimile is at The Smoking Gun!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0409041pdb1.html

(Be sure to click on the SECOND page as well - where it mentions they were casing buildings in NY and thinking of hijacking planes.)

Also posted directly on DU here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x479063

[ozymandius]

41. MATCOM! Look! Here it is!

Smoking Gun, no less. What else does Dadcom have in mind?