The PDB redactions = drip, drip, drip

[DancingBear]

Please, everyone, don't worry about the redactions - they will soon leak, and we will all know the contents.

For those of us old enough to remember, this pattern is so eerily similar to Watergate that it makes ones head spin. With each passing day, another piece will find its way to the puzzle. Nixon, Mitchell et al. tried as hard as this current bunch of thieves to thwart the truth, but were unsuccessful. That same pattern will hold here.

The redactions are the beginnings of Nixon's 18 1/2 gap - Condi is Haldeman- falling on the sword. The picture of DimSon hard at work is Nixon assuring the Silent Majority that the true work of America must go forward.

Our only fear here is that the press will not act as they did back in '73, but with the rise of the Internet, AA, etc. I am gainly more confidence daily.

These bastards are 100 times worse than Nixon, so do not despair. Nixon was brilliant man, and * is a fool. He must speak, and soon. He must answer questions, and soon.

When he does, we win.

[ithacan]

1. it's no coincidence

most of the guys running this white house were involved in the Nixon White House. Karl Rove was not prosecuted for dirty tricks back then only because they had so many bigger fish to fry.

[DancingBear]

2. And don't think Ben Veniste doesn't remember

He is a brilliant litigator, and there are far too many information sources now to let the smaller fish swim free. This has to be done very carefully, without damaging the credibility of Kerry re: Iraq, supporting the troops, etc. But it will be done. I truly believe it. Clarke is still not done, Dean is out there, Woodward is coming up, Wilson is coming up. The commission still has Ashcroft. The 9-11 widows are front and center.

Karen Hughes can go on TV 24/7 and it won't help.

Remember that Republicans ALWAYS overreach. Always.

[MuseRider]

3. "Remember that Republicans ALWAYS overreach. Always."

I have been waiting. They always shoot themselves in the foot, it has been happening over and over but it has been harder to get it to stick this time because the press is not reporting as they should and the masses have been sleeping. Perhaps this is the straw that breaks the camels back. I am not going to hold my breath but it does seem encouraging this time. I keep thinking that once something really bad gets out there people who have not questioned will begin to. That is what we need now.

[DancingBear]

6. We're in a "made for the masses" war now

so this indeed makes it doubly hard. I am encoraged, however, by the fact that the NY Times made it a Page 1 story, and that the repubs are in full-fledged all-out shoot the messenger mode.

The key now is whether or not people (read: the press) will ask: "Why didn't he act on this information? If terrorism was so front and center, then surely he wouldn't have blown off this report as "historical information", he would have ADDED it to his already large terrorism file, which of course can be produced to prove the point."

He can only catch bass for so long - at some point the constant pounding by Clarke, Dean, Woodward, etc. will force him to actually try and speak for himself - at some type of news conference. This, if it happens, will be telling, for he will show himself to be what we know he is - a liar and a fool.

[ramblin_dave]

4. What was redacted?

Was it more than the blacked out parts of the pdf file that has been posted?

[TheWizardOfMudd]

5. Can Anyone Confirm?

Haven't the 9/11 Commission members seen the entire PDB? I know they can't tell us what was redacted, but at least that can tell us that something damaging was redacted, right?

[DancingBear]

9. Nothing confirmed at this point, at least to my knowledge

"Conventional" sources are stating that it is only the names of sources, but others are speculating that information with regard to warnings given to the U.S. from other countries is what is contained beneath the marker.

As for the commission, I do not know if they have access to the entire document - I would assume not, due to the fact that it was classified, and I would not think that someone like the ex-Gov of NJ would have security clearance high enough to see the document in its entireity.

Predicated on their past history of lying through their collective teeth, I would lean more towards the school of thought that whatever has been redacted is very damaging to the * boys.

[ConcernedCanuk]

7. Just curious, anyone know how much she still has in Chevron?

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I mean she's gotta have a whack of money somewhere, the Nat'l Security thing is just a hobby for her.

What did they name her tanker anyways, remember she DID have a tanker named after her at Chevron. Not ANY tanker, it was the largest one in the Fleet, renamed quickly after Georgie-boy got into office.

Sne musta made them a whack of moolah to get that boat named after her!

Is their ANYONE in the top end that doesn't have their fingers in the oil bucket?

[SoCalDem]

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