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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:20 PM
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Indict Tenet for perjury immediately
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:25 PM by mouse7
Tenet said on the stand today in the 9/11 commission hearings that he did not meet with Bush while Bush was on vacation. A CIA spokeman now claims Tenet did meet with Bush on vaction.

Indict Tenet for perjury immediately. The CIA says Tenet lied under oath today. Fine. Indict him and make him swear on a witness stand in a courtroom which story is correct.

I'm tired of the lies from the neo-cons. Truth matters. It's time to make them realize it.

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SimpleMan Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:22 PM
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1. It's even worse than that...
He was there on the August 24, 2001 too (at least).

From the White House web site:

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/08/20010825-2.html

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President Gives Tour of Crawford Ranch
Remarks by the President During Tour of the President's Ranch
Prarie Chapel Ranch
Crawford, Texas


Q    When you have those business meetings, like the Joint Chiefs briefing, do you like to keep it separate from the living quarters on the ranch?

     THE PRESIDENT:  Actually, you know, what we call the governor's house, the place where you all came out during the -- that's where we went.  Condi and Karen Hughes stayed there.  And right across the street from that is a -- it's a nice looking government doublewide.  (Laughter.)  And that's where the mil aide, the nurse, the WHCA head, the doc, they stay.

     The CIA briefings, I have on our porch, the end of our porch looking out over the lake.  When Tenet came up, that's where we visited, out there.

     You know, everybody wants to see the ranch, which I'm proud to show it off.  So George Tenet and I -- yesterday, we piled in the new nominees for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, the Vice Chairman and their wives and went right up the canyon.






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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:39 PM
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7. Sounds good start a write in champaign
Submit the facts draft a good letter and make the rounds to all the sites including this one urging everyone to write their lawmakers and demand and explanation.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:49 PM
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11. Why is that damaging? This is from the WH.
The problem is Tenet's testimony conflicts directly with the WH story. Was the testimony an honest mistake? Maybe, but doubtful. From the testimony I just heard (rerun on CSPAN), Tenet was clear that he didn't go to Texas in August. I see no reason why he'd lie about that....and he'd certainly remember if he took a trip to the ranch in August, I'd think.

But I can see lots of reasons why the WH would like us to believe that Dimson was in constant contact with the CIA on the "gathering threat".

The refute was not from Tenet, but a CIA spokesman. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this was a WH political operative who made the statement. George Tenet will have to either accept this or refute it. One way or the other, he's going to have to coment on it.

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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:22 PM
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2. It is Tenet. n/t
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sjgman9 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:24 PM
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3. Give Tenet a break
Look, he's under a lot of stress.

He's a Clinton appointee, and as DCI, he knows where the bodies are buried. Richard Clarke gets along with him, so lets give Tenet a pass.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:28 PM
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4. I'm certain that Tenet was correct at 9/11 hearings today.
I'm certain that Tenet told the truth today, and the CIA is trying to cover that. The CIA spokesman presser isn't under oath. Tenet was.

This is to force the hand of the neo-cons to admit under oath that Bush did not meet with Tenet at the Crawford Ranch while Bush was on vacation.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:51 PM
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13. I understood your point.
Clearly someone is lying. Tenet had no reason to lie about not being at the ranch. Conversely, the WH has a big interest in making the public believe that Dimson was on top off the gathering threat while he played in Texas.
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sjgman9 Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 10:33 PM
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16. Who would you trust, Tenet or Bush
I trust the CIA director
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:35 PM
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6. Richard Clark is no longer part of this administration.
It's time to stop giving everyone a pass. That's the problem.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:31 PM
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5. thanks. n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:42 PM
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8. Tenet isn't a neo-con.
He may have said something like he doesn't remember going to Texas in August. That will probably let him off the hook. But I do think they should document all lies being told during this hearing. That way, they can unimpeach the honorable Bill Clinton for his so called lie "under oath".
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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:49 PM
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10. Clinton didn't lie under oath
He said he didn't have sex with that woman. Oral sex is not "sex". Now all I have to do is convince my wife of this "fact". :-)
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:00 PM
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15. Yes, most definitely impeachable.
The Republicans spent $72MM+ of taxpayer's money and conducted a 12 year Inquisition on Clinton's personal life. The FBI had 100's of agents running around Arkansas taking depositions of gold-diggers. In the end, "0" criminal indictments, while terrorists were taking flight lessons. When Clinton did react to Al Qaida, the Republicans were screaming "wag the dog".

But will these same Republican cowards hold this unelected fraud accountable for lies that have sent 600 of our sons and daughters to their deaths because the Bush oil interests wanted Iraq's oil?

Clinton might have had sex, but the American people got screwed...and you apologists just aren't smart enough to realize the difference......the joke's on you.
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bushbeater Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:46 PM
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9. Is Tenet a neocon?Wh
Why did President Clinton have a neocon on his staff? I'm not convinced.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:50 PM
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12. I think Tenet
like most in the intelligence community, knew that something serious was about to happen, and it seems according to Clarke atleast, that Tenet and him did try to warn the administration on several occasions.

I also have little doubt that Tenet and most in the intelligence comminity didn't think the war on Iraq would make much sense.

However, Tenet has proven himself to be inept regardless, and definetely cowardly and spineless.

I would prefer that Kerry doesn't keep him if he's elected.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:53 PM
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14. Someone posted Bush's itinerary for August a few days ago.
I can't search for it, but I'd be very interested to see where he was on the 24th. He was most definitely on the road and moving around in that time frame.....wonder if someone here can repost the itinerary on this thread?
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