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Stevendsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:57 AM
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I Blame Congress (House and Senate) For The Mess We're In
Sure BushCo is packed with neocon nutjobs, and of course Iraq was a White House operation.

But, god dammit, where the hell were the voices of sanity in congress? Where were the checks and balances stop this madness? There are some Republicans out there that are not completely insane. Where the hell were they?

And of course, where the hell were the congressional Democrats?

Where the hell was Kerry?

Everyone on this damn discussion board knew Bush could not be trusted.

Why the fuck didn't our elected reps?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:01 PM
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1. aside from Robert Byrd and Ron Paul...
I can't think offhand of any that were willing to call it like it is...
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:03 PM
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3. Kennedy, Waxman, McCollum
Yeah, the Repugs in Congress are too intimidated by Rove's taxes and too dependent on the gravy train to do the right thing.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:06 PM
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4. yeah, aside from the above
...they are all traitors to the American people.

Cross party lines. Vote against the incumbents, all of them, every time.

With less return on their bribe..er, campaign contributions, the corporate will have to find another way to get the maximum bang for their buck. After all, why squander hundreds of thousands of dollars on some joker who will only be in the House for 2 years, in the Senate for 6, and then out on his well padded arse?

This is back door campaign finance reform, folks, and it's the only real tool open to ordinary folks. Vote against the incumbent, even if you kind of like the fellow (unless he's one of the above). Vote against your party of preference to unseat a witless seat warmer who has been selling you out for years. Get rid of them. All of them. All the time until they wake the hell up.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:01 PM
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2. I hope you're young enough
to live to see the day when reponsibility is rightly placed on those who were complicit. Don't count on it anytime soon. With the dem candidate having voted for the war, there are very few who are interested in an honest look at this issue at this time.
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wildmanj Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:07 PM
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5. deserve
the people don't always get what they want--but--in most cases what they deserve--we are on the verge of paying the price for stupidity that came into existence in 1973
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:08 PM
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6. They were afraid of being called unpatriotic
You're right of course. The mood in the country after 9/11 was such that the American people wanted revenge on someone. bush was able to translate that anger and use it for his own evil plans. Everyone in Congress had to go along with bush ("You're either with us or aginst us") or they would be labeled as unpatriotic at best. I'm sure there were a good number of Congressmen who voted to give bush his war powers in spite of their better judgement. But it was important to them to maintain their jobs and their power. They were weak.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:13 PM
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7. generally speaking ... come on in, the water is fine ...
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 12:17 PM by cosmicdot


one of my (D) Senators is profitting from Iraq through a contract her husband's business has; and, through Poppy's Carlyle Group being a stock beneficial owner of that business ... she voted FOR the tax cut ... let's hear it for DiFi ...

hop in ... room for all



one clue: corporate america's tentacles and special interest have the nation's politicians and our government by their toes (politely spoken) ... it's the Techno Era Guilded Age

corporate power, control and corruption should be the Democratic Platform's general theme effecting practically everything ... from taxes to war to energy to healthcare, etc.

~imho, of course~

thank goodness for the likes of Waters, Kucinich, Franks, Jackson-Lee, Waxman, Sanders, etc.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:15 PM
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8. i also blame shrub and the supreme court
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 12:25 PM
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9. they were looking out for themself and their political career as well
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 12:29 PM by Marianne
as their ego--they were cowards, imo and that includes Kerry and Hillary.

They were playing the game of politics and this is my one big objection to John Kerry. I could not vote for him and wish the nomination had gone to someone willing to go against the tide and not go along to get along, as I consider Kerry to be. I also consider Hillary to be a warhawk and panders to Ariel Sharon's Likud party. Kerry is too far entrenched in the good old boy club

All of them should be on their knees asking forgiveness from the American people whom they are supposed to serve.

Now Kerry is paying the price--he is accused of being a waffler because he voted for the invasion and the war against Iraq, and then voted against further financing, and frankly, I do not believe that any of them did not or could not see the lies of \George Bush/Colin Powell, Condi Rice, Wolfowitz and all the others, because millions of we uninformed and unsophisticated common persons not connected to the higher wisdom of Washington congressional clubs could see it plainly and could research the information far better, apparently, than theses entrenched, smart Washington warmongers---Kerry is still for the war now; he has no other logical choice. So is Hillary and the rest as far as I know, and you know why they are still for the war, and by implication, for the egregious loss of life it has wrought on both sides? Because they CANNOT offer one damn thing now to ease that loss of life and that burden because they will LOOK like hypocrites. In other words, they backed themselves into this corner , and it is all political and are willing to let the dying and the killing continue while talking out of the other side of their mouth.

I am in disgust of the entire system. In three and a half years, we have gone down into the snake pit under the pathetic, childish and stupid leadership of an insane man, who never did win an election, and a compliant, warmongering congress out for political survival and gain.

I am in disgust of our so called media, the majority of our congressional representatives, the slime of a corrupt Supremem Court who propelled an evil idiot into office, while ignoring the people's votes, and that covers virtually all of what comprises our government.

It is broken. Kerry will not be able to fix it and may not have the werewithal to fix it and of course, we can, I am afraid, look forward to more of the same from our congress. I have the feeling we will be mired in it for lack of courage.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 02:38 PM
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10. Well
there's always 2008.
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