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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:25 PM
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Bay Buchanan says Kerry just stole Bush's plan
She keeps hammering hammering...Kerry's plan is what Bush intended to do all along, he just hadn't announced it yet! She is OUTRAGED that Kerry stole it from Bush!!!! My god, theater of the absurd!
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:27 PM
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1. Be nice to your local cube dweller.
What program is Buchanan on? What "plan" is Kerry accused of "stealing?"

-MR
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:30 PM
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7. Kerry's address yesterday
Outlining what he thinks needs to be done. Bay in on Judy Woodruff's creep show, with Candy Crawly shilling in. Bay was fighting with Donna Brazill. I thought Bay was going to blow a gasket, huffing and puffing at the nerve of Kerry to come out and make an address about what was going to do anyway.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:30 PM
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8. They don't care about us.
They just go on with their little liberal elitist limosine TVs and caviar couches.;-)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:28 PM
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2. What I learned from DU:
I was right not to get cable TV.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:28 PM
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3. Bay Buchanan: All of her brother's looks, half the charm or intelligence
What a loathesome creature.

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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:29 PM
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4. Is old Bay yapping agin.....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:29 PM
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5. What? Kerry plans to wreck the economy and start more wars?
And destroy the environment, too? Clever, verrrrry clever.
That'll take the wind out of Bush's sails.
:think:
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buddy22600 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:30 PM
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6. What plan is Kerry stealing?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:36 PM
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11. she's trying to say Bush wanted the UN in Iraq all along!
yeah, with his heels hammering the floor and fists flying--and a smear campaign against Annan and Blix, and an all out attack on the UN in general...

Oh, yes, Bushie has AALWAYS wanted the UN to help--on his terms, period. So they hit the road.


Bay Buchanan is a pathetic excuse for a person. She needs to get her head on straight. She's mothing but a shill, and you can't keep pundit credentials if that's all you do.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:31 PM
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9. How do you steal nothing?
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:41 PM
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13. I think it is just the opposite.
Rethugs want Kerry to announce his plan for Bush's Iraq mess, so they can steal Kerrys.
They have NO viable plan of their own. Of course they want to hear Kerry's approach to resolving the disaster Bush has created in th Middle East. They are in over their heads with no way out.
What Would Kerry Do..

I don't blame Kerry for keeping silent on HIS plans and policies, he should reveal it only when he takes power from Bush et al.

Meanwhile I'll trust that Kerry is wiser and more involved than Bush ever could be.

Rethugs are in over their heads also, when it comes to defending Bush White House policies. Scream away, Mz Buchannan. No One on this side can hear you.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:55 AM
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29. No, That's Fine
Let them steal Kerry's plans. Let them steal his plans to help protect our troops. Let them steal his plans for smarter foreign policy. Let them steal his plans for health care, and his plans for tax fairness too! I say, let them steal ALL of John Kerry's plans and put them into effect. You won't hear me complaining.

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:34 PM
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10. Jeeez, I didn't realize Kerry had a religious fatwha plan. Thanks, Bay!
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:37 PM
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12. Let *'s lawyer call Kerry's lawyer. It pays to apply for copyright . . .
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 03:58 PM
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14. I couldn't believe what she was saying either.
Good lord, Wes Clark has been talking about putting the civil reconstruction effort under the UN, and creating a NATO out-of-theater umbrella organization (JUST LIKE KOSOVO) for security since well before he entered the race last September. It's in his flippin' book!

I'm not as well versed on Kerry's plan before, I know that's what it is now. Pretty much the same thing.

How the F*** can this raving idiot claim it was Bush's plan?! I've never even heard him say the word NATO before that disaster he called a press conference two nites ago.

Theater of the absurd indeed.

...slow burn....
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:02 PM
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15. How can Bay claim it was Bush's plan? Easy.
Nazis/Commies/Busheviks are readily programmable and impervious to facst from Non-Party-Approved Sources.

We must stop these monsters peacfully before they have a chance to perform their version of The Final Solution. We must stop them before they fully implement the New Bush/Putin Totalitarianism Plan of "Managed Democracy".

We MUST, or there is no hope left for Liberty in America and the American Experiment.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:04 PM
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16. Kerry worked on a post-Saddam Iraq plan with CLINTON back in 98.
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 04:11 PM by blm
That was when Clinton was preparing for the necessity of going in to remove Saddam.

Kerry always stressed the UN involvement in the transition and fully funding schools, hospitals and other vital social aid needed postSaddam long before the IWR vote.
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:19 PM
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21. No argument there
But the NATO component is new to Bush, and I think to Kerry as well. I know it showed up in his Op-Ed piece in the Washington Post on Tuesday, and I don't remember seeing it before. Couldn't have been part of the Clinton plan because NATO was fighting Kosovo at the time. Well, I guess it could have been, but... If it was, you can bet Clark would have been involved in the planning, since he was NATO SACEUR then.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:29 PM
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23. No doubt. I think that's why Kerry and Clark are usually on the same page
on almost every issue. They have been longtime friends and allies for good governance and intelligent military strategy.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:12 PM
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17. tell JIMMY BAKER and CREW not to PUBLISH the 'plans' in the NYT then ;-)


Brent Scowcroft, the national security adviser during the first Bush administration and mentor of current National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, warned against a "go-it-alone" strategy in the Wall Street Journal.

"An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken," Scowcroft wrote in the September 15, 2002, edition on the Journal's editorial page.

Lawrence Eagleburger, who also served in the first Bush administration, also spoke out, saying the nation need answers before any war against Iraq.

"How long do we stay? How much does it cost? What does it do to our conditions within that part of the world? What kind of a regime do we put in his place? How long does it last if it seems that we are the ones that put him in his place?" Eagleburger said during a September 25 interview on CNN's "Late Edition." "I think there are any number of complex questions that simply haven't been examined."

With pressure from critics mounting, the Bush administration took its case to the United Nations. In a September 12 speech to the U.N. General Assembly, President Bush said the UN risked the possibility of becoming irrelevant if it didn't enforce its own resolutions against Iraq.

more...
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/09/30/sproject.irq.regime.change/



peace
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:17 PM
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18. Oh, did Kerry come out in favor of a quagmire?
I guess I missed that headline.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:25 PM
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19. It's really a shame Bush hasn't had the opportunity to talk to the public
about his plans. Damn you, John Kerry!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 04:27 PM
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20. THEY MUST THINK IT IS A GOOD PLAN!!!! Otherwise they would not
try to steal it. Good for Kerry.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 05:29 PM
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22. Whatever slim chance Kerry has of 'internationalizing' security in Iraq...
...Bush has absolutely NO chance.

Nobody overseas trusts Bush anymore -- especially with the prospect of him in a second term.

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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 07:39 PM
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24. If it was Bush's plan all along ...
why didn't he announce it when he had a nationwide audience on Tuesday night?

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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 08:20 PM
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25. prove it, witch!
nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:13 PM
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26. Geez, these Republicans are shameless.
How did Bay get into Bush's inner circle when Pat is so anti-Bush? It begs the question.
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liarliartieonfire Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:06 PM
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27. Why IS Pat Buchannan anti-Bush, exactly. I missed that point...
I would have expected him to be like Bay, when it comes to supporting all things Bush.
Tks. Just curious.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-04 06:43 AM
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28. Different degrees of Republican and I think Pat has played the game
enough to know that Bush is losing his core group.

This is actually a good topic. I encourage you to start a thread so that DUers can give you better specifics than I can.
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