Iraq War: The case for Impeachment!

[dennis4868]

I just finnished reading John Dean's new book and he lays out the case for impeachment based on the Iraq War...Bush's authority given to him by Congress (through a Resolution/federal law) to invade Iraq was conditioned on a formal DETERMINATION by the president that there be:

1. a threat from Iraq
2. that could not be dealt with through diplomacy
3. and that Bush's actions in Iraq are consistent with the war against those who attacked us on 911.

Within 48 hours after the war began Bush, by law, was required to submit a DETERMINATION to Congress and prove all the points mentioned above.....Bush's DETERMINATION to Congress was one big lie after another. No proof....just lies! We all know what those lies are by now. The entire world knows.....

Anyway....So what do the Dems have to say about this violation of federal law?Impeachment? Nope....they say NOTHING! NOTHING! And NOTHING! The media also says NOTHING of course....thats a shock!

Can you imagine if the roles were reversed and Clinton committed all this fraud on this country and soldiers were dying? How fast do you think he would have been impeached for this crap? And Dems would have voted for impeachment.

[The Traveler]

1. Its politics

Lets put this one before the people. We have to help them understand, or they will just elect another Shrub down the line.

[GoBucksBeatBush]

2. civics

ummm...as much as i adamently agree with the notion that bush should be impeached post haste (see my avatar...), i also realize that the House must vote to impeach...with the large advantage that DeLay and Co. have right now, there's absolutely no way in hell that an impeachment move would gain any traction or do anything other than potentially come back to bite any dems who are in seats not jerrymandered to be 100% safe. granted there arent' all that many of those, but still...

not saying that a few days news cycle of impeachment as a topic of conversation for the talking heads wouldn't be great to see, but nader called for it earlier in the week, and the media's hardly said boo about it.

[dennis4868]

3. "and the media's hardly said boo about it."

That was another of John Dean's points....that in order for IraqGate to be a scandal you need the media to give it legs....unfortunately, the mainstreem media is not going to seriously go after Bush on anything serious....these days the media has ADD....now wait till a dem is back in the WH...the gloves come off again.

[GoBucksBeatBush]

4. concurr

yes, i would concurr, the media is a big part of the problem. then again, when you allow one of the largest military contractors (GE) to also own one of the three major nets (NBC), what's the likelyhood they're going to NOT want a war to cover.

they make me sick. a-holes.


btw-i have a black t-shirt with "impeach bush" in big, white letters...it's rather elegent in its simplicity...get lots of compliments when i garner the stones to wear it in public, although lots of interesting looks as well. i feel like a hot lass getting checked out. :-)

[The Traveler]

6. John O'Neill

Deserves justice. And the others in the towers. And the innocent bystanders in Iraq. Bin Laden and Bush are of the same cloth. Contrast them with Eisenhower, Clark, Kennedy, Clinton.

Yeah, man ... this NEVER happened on Clinton's watch!

The media is beginning to contemplate their navels on the matter. Perhaps the journalists will grow some stones.

[anarchy1999]

9. Look up "war is a racket" by Smedley Butler.

You will be shocked and awed.

just go to google and enter "war is a racket, smedley butler"

You'll be okay.

http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm

Smedley Butler on Interventionism
-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.

I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.

I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.

There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.



WAR IS A RACKET

Smedley Darlington Butler

Major General - United States Marine Corps

Born West Chester, Pa., July 30, 1881

Educated Haverford School

Married Ethel C. Peters, of Philadelphia, June 30, 1905

Awarded two congressional medals of honor, for capture of Vera Cruz, Mexico, 1914,

and for capture of Ft. Riviere, Haiti, 1917

Distinguished service medal, 1919

Retired Oct. 1, 1931

On leave of absence to act as director of Department of Safety, Philadelphia, 1932

Lecturer - 1930's

Republican Candidate for Senate, 1932

Died at Naval Hospital, Philadelphia, June 21, 1940

For more information about Major General Smedley Butler, contact the United States Marine Corps.

Chapter One

WAR IS A RACKET

WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

SPREAD THE WORD FAR AND WIDE - "WAR IS A RACKET" out of the mouth of one of the most decorated veterans ever.

[coltman]

5. Hello fellow buck

welcome to the DU.

[GoBucksBeatBush]

7. go bucks

thanks for the welcome. i've been lurking for a couple of years now, actually, just never registered to be able to post. it's way past time i should be in bed, so perhaps that explains why i went ahead and registered tonight so as to be able to reply to a few posts. the conservative idiots column is the first thing i read every monday morning. i've even posted it on the law school dems board at school from time to time.

[xxqqqzme]

8. conservative idiots list

is something I pass around as well. It is just 2 damn good not 2 share.

always glad 2 C someone un-lurk. It took me a while also.

Welcome to DU.

[nomatrix]

10. Welcome to DU

The GOP just might impeach because it would give them a chance to throw another hat in the ring, especially if the knew Bush would lose. The have been dredging the swamps looking for spokesmen. Karen Hughes, Thompson for Law & Order, Brzezinski, waiting for them to channel Nixon.