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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:16 AM
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Pat Robertson interview
I was watching the 700 Club the other day, and he called for a war with North Korea...


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,111121,00.html


How did we get to this point where our political system is being held hostage by the Robertson/Falwell/corporate axis?


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:18 AM
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1. Yeah, let's take on guys with nukes, that's a real plan
Fundies are just nuts. :eyes:
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:23 AM
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5. Too many of them in these US of A. I am so sorry for the country.
This is the fault of parents being undeducated and schools allowing education to go down the drain. An uneducated populace will revert to superstition and off-the-wall religious beliefs to justify their lives.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:26 AM
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7. excellent point! well said. n/t
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:21 AM
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2. How does THAT work in Pat's "great plan" ?
I guess any Armegeddon is good Armegeddon. (sorry if I blew the spelling)
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Arger68 Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:22 AM
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3. Aren't tax exempt organizations
supposed to lose their tax exempt status if they are really a for profit political organization? The 700 club should be paying taxes on every dollar they take in if they have a political agenda, I think. Please let me know if I'm wrong!! :shrug:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:14 AM
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11. They aren't tax exempt
Pallast writes about this in The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

They chose not to challenge denial of tax exempt status so that they could broadcast shit like this.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:15 AM
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12. and, considering that huge corporations generally pay almost no taxes,
it probably wasn't a difficult choice to make.
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Arger68 Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:57 PM
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19. Okay, thanks!!!!
I also agree with you on corporations not paying enough. Good to know Roberton's paying probably 3-4% of all the money he bilks out of little old ladies in taxes.:eyes:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:22 AM
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4. What a brilliant Military Strategist
Yes Pat, lets just spread our military thinner than it already is. Yes lets spread christian conservative ethics by the tip of a missile. Will you urge your congregation to sign up?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:25 AM
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6. Pat "Liquor Officer" Robertson was in Korea once
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 09:26 AM by NNN0LHI
http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm

In 1986, a new force emerged in US politics that would, in the 1994 elections, result in a major change in the alignment of the US Congress -- the "Christian right" -- an assortment and loose coalition of "Christian" organizations working, in their view, to bring about a "Christian" America. In fact, they are working to bring about an America that fits their narrow definition of America. These people are neither "Christian" nor "right." Instead, they are dictatorial, mean-spirited, and intolerant. Their principal leader is one Pat Robertson.

No doubt you have seen Robertson on his television show, the "700 Club" where, among other outrageous claims, Robertson claims to occasionally receive messages from God. It works -- Robertson raises huge amounts of money from the misled faithful.

I recommend that anyone who wishes to learn the facts about Robertson read this book: The Most Dangerous Man in America: Pat Robertson and the Christian Coalition, by Robert Boston. (1996; Prometheus Books, 59 John Glenn drive, Amherst, NY 14228-2197)

In his 1986 presidential campaign, Robertson claimed that he was a "combat Marine" who had served in combat during the Korean War. This claim was a lie, typical of others told by Robertson. However, this was one lie that he could not get away with -- there were Marines who knew Robertson and who knew the truth.

The following is a chapter from the book The Taking of Hill 610 And Other Essays on Friendship, by Paul N. McCloskey, Jr. (1992; Eaglet Books, 580 Mountain Home Road, Woodside, CA 94062). In this chapter, the author lays out the facts of Robertson's Marine Corps service. Pat Robertson's father was a US senator who intervened with the Marine Corps to have his son assigned to duty in the rear, away from combat. Robertson served in Korea as the "liquor officer" -- responsible for keeping the officers' clubs supplied with liquor. There he also was known to drink himself and to frequent prostitutes -- he even feared that he had contracted gonorrhea.


more

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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:28 AM
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13. Thanks for exposing the hypocrite
you saved me the time of Googling up what you just layed out about that evangelical turd.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:47 AM
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15. Looks like a great book, thanks NNN0LHI
Looked it up on Amazon and got several others (some by Boston) added to my list of things to get.

Maybe you could start a thread dedicated to gathering resources to blast ol Pat off the bully pulpit sometime soon? Sounds like it would be a good idea.

Again, thanks for the recommendation. Showing how the GOP has been taken over by forces defiantly not aligned with belief in adherence to the Constitution is a good way to give many decent people a wake up call and get them motivated to action.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:49 AM
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16. Good stuff Don, as usual. Also Robertson's father
had something to do with getting him out of Korea. I don't have the particulars. Info in an article by Fred Crawford "Character Matters".
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:43 AM
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8. how very christian of him
I'm glad to see that the religious leaders in this country are following the example of Jesus and advocating total destruction of the world. </sarcasm>:puke:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:50 AM
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9. Chicken Wuss Pat wants to wage war??
I guess he has a Passion for blood too.

Pat is kinda Cookie.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:04 AM
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10. What we need to do about Pat
is expose him for the fraud he is. Then he will lose credibility with his followers.

Now is the time to take our country back from the Falwell wing of the GOP!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:33 AM
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14. Yeh. On the way there, Pat wants to "Stone to Death" UFO believers, too.
He's a fine satanist, that Marion "Pat" Robertson.

http://www.parascope.com/articles/0897/ufodeath.htm

Do you know he owns gold and silver interests in Africa, bought with his PTL lootings?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5339-2001Nov9

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, jaredh! Where ya been?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 12:00 PM
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17. I was just going to cite that WP column. Here is
some more on Robertson defending Charles Taylor:

Pat Robertson Defends Liberia's President

Charles Taylor, the Liberian president who has been indicted by an international court for crimes against humanity, has few remaining supporters in the United States. But one prominent American who has stuck with the West African leader is religious broadcaster and Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson. In recent broadcasts of his cable TV show "The 700 Club," watched by an estimated 1 million households, Robertson has defended Taylor as a fellow Baptist and Liberia's "freely elected" leader. The "horrible bloodbath" taking place in Liberia, he has repeatedly said, is the fault of the State Department. "So we're undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country. And how dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down,' " Robertson said to his viewers on Monday. What Robertson, 73, has not discussed in these broadcasts is his financial interest in Liberia. In an interview yesterday, he said he has "written off in my own mind" an $8 million investment in a gold mining venture that he made four years ago under an agreement with Taylor's government.
more… <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35786-2003Jul9.html>
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 12:36 PM
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18. Psy-ops seems the only explanation.
The major BFEE turd Robertson must have brainwashed his followers. Otherwise, they'd have tarred and feathered his chicken-hearted hide long ago.

"Beware the man of the cloth who's also a man of business."
-- paraphrase of a memory from Bartlett's Familiar Quotation.
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DaveSZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 04:57 PM
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20. I agree his followers must not be able to see through him,
but we can.

;)
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 05:49 PM
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22. Voltaire even had a take on Psy-ops:
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 05:51 PM by 9215
Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices.
- Voltaire, 1767.


The absurdity is that Robertson is somehow connected to divinity and or reflects something of higher value than anybody else. Institutionalized religion, for some goddamn reason, allows people like Robertson, Falwell and Moon to rise to the top.

Modern Religion: The Greatest Story Ever Sold.
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strategery blunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 05:05 PM
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21. I found Robertson's spiel on the 10 Commandments laughable
ROBERTSON: They were the foundation of the moral code of America, the foundation of our common law. And the very foundational values, you shall not kill, stealing, adultery, bearing false witness in court, that kind of thing. These are very serious matters for us. And for the Supreme Court to say that that has no educational value is just appalling. I'm pointing out in my book how the courts have usurped the function of the legislature. We just saw this in Massachusetts. So they are doing it at the state level, also at the national level.

Bu$h has killed (through war) innocent people, he has looted the national treasury, he lied repeatedly to the Congress and the American public on just about every issue, and (bonus fun round that Robertson forgot to mention) he covets Iraq's oil fields.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 06:09 PM
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23. fuck that goddamned psychopathic sonofabitch
I used to live a mile from him back in the 80's before I wised up and left Virginia Beach, which is full of his followers and sympathizers. I used to love sparring with them in the workplace or at school, but that got old quickly. You can't argue with sick fucks like him or his cult.

He is a sick, SICK sonofabitch and living proof that mental illness is far too common and deep in the fabric of American life.

I have many wishes for that fuck, and none of them are suitable for your reading enjoyment.
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