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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 09:59 AM
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Teddy Roosevelt IV & Other Repub for Kerry
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http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix_u.htm

KERRY CROWD

AT the jam-packed John Kerry fund-raiser at Crobar Wednesday night, Andre Heinz, the candidate's stepson visiting from Switzerland, stole the show with impersonations of George Bush the elder, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Bill Clinton. He followed up with a jacket-shedding dance in front of such celebs as Natalie Portman, Marissa Tomei, Stanley Tucci, Steve Buscemi and Tom Delong of Blink 182. The other surprise was the attendance of Theodore Roosevelt IV, the great-grandson of Teddy Roosevelt and a speaker four years ago at the Republican Convention in Philadelphia. Roosevelt, an environmentalist, has joined such GOPers as former Nixon Secretary of Commerce Pete Peterson who are supporting Kerry.

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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:13 AM
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1. Is it possible all the traditional Republicans, that is...
...those who have actually accomplished something, are drifting towards Kerry? Perhaps by November, all B* will have supporting him are Fundies, the chronically ignorant ditto heads and those with a direct financial interest in preserving their own kickbacks, tax cuts or defense contracts.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:54 AM
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2. What DAGDA56 said...
... and I'd add that there are a whole bunch more good Republicans -- defined as those who put the country ahead of the party or personal interests -- as compared to the neo-confederate neo-nazis for whom Gee Duhbya works.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:09 AM
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6. Thanks O-Fish...and you got me thinking...
...I don't recall a time when I had to choose between my personal values and the values of the Democratic party...(conflicts with individual Democrats, yes...but not the party.)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 10:59 AM
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3. Natalie Portman, Marisa Tomei,
Susan Sarandon, Rachel Leigh Cook, Kirsten Dunst. Our girls are much hotter than theirs (Blanquita, Cheney).

As Breslin put it, no one who voted for Gore will vote for Smirk this time, yet many sane Repubs will vote for Kerry. If it weren't for Diebold, I'd be feeling good...
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:04 AM
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4. I'd like to see.......
TR IV make a statement on Earthday contrasting his namesakes environmental legacy with the carnage bu$h is committing. Slam dunk.
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DAGDA56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:07 AM
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5. I suspect he's already played that out in his mind...
...which helped put him in the Kerry camp.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:21 AM
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7. Here's a recent interview w/ TRIV
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/4663131.html

Theodore Roosevelt IV, a New York investment banker, wilderness advocate and great-grandson of the president, was in Minneapolis last month to address the Westminster Town Hall Forum. He spoke afterward with Ron Meador, editorial writer. The following is adapted from their conversation.

Q. What is your message for fellow Republicans?

A. We had great Republicans who did a lot to generate interest in protecting the environment — going back, obviously, to TR, but look at Dwight Eisenhower. He set the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in place. Richard Nixon — Clean Air, Clean Water, the EPA, the bedrock of all our environmental laws.

There has been an ethic in the Republican Party that you are conservative and you don’t eat your seed corn — you don’t consume your capital. But that’s exactly what we’re doing. definition of an immoral society is one that passes its debts down to the next generation. Well, that’s what we’re doing. That’s not what we stand for as a party.

Q. Do people in the party listen to you?

A. Some do. More people who are not in the party listen. But I’m damned if I’m going to allow the Trent Lotts of the world to drive me out of the party that my family has been part of since John C. Fremont. We’ve got great ideas on market incentives and things of that sort, perhaps a better understanding of where business can be good.

Q. Some strategists say President Bush could chalk up instant political gains by moderating his environmental policies. Why doesn’t he?

A. He is convinced that if he moderated his views, he would get absolutely no credit with the environmental community. And that may be true, but it’s more important what the people think. And he’s also convinced that he would antagonize his hard-core supporters. Well, where the hell else are they going to go?

So he is guilty of both terrible public policy and terrible politics — because this will come back and bite the party. And as a Republican, I don’t want to see that happen.

Q. It was said that only Nixon could go to China. Who can bring your party back to its senses on the environment?

A. Actually, the president could, if he wanted to. He could say, “I think we’ve moved too far, here’s what I want to do.” People would initially would be skeptical. But all it would take would be one State of the Union with very specific legislation that he was going to propose — say, on global warming.

Q. What could environmentalists be doing better?

A. Bush has been extraordinarily successful in dismantling environmental laws. The administration has gotten away with it because nobody gives a damn. And part of the reason nobody gives a damn is because the environmental community has lost credibility with large parts of the American public. And we need to recognize that. We need to recognize that we are viewed as shrill, arrogant, condescending, colonial and paternalistic. That doesn’t make allies.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 11:27 AM
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8. "But I’m damned if I’m going to allow the Trent Lotts of the world...."
That's a strong statement. Translation: Quit letting the NeoCon, NeoNazi Fundies take over the party.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:04 PM
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9. Excellent Interview, Thanks n/t
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:27 PM
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10. "The party my family has been a member of since John C Fremont"
Edited on Sat Apr-17-04 01:28 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
As someone whose family has been Democratic since Breckenridge for sure and probably since Andrew Jackson, I can appreciate and respect his stance on that.
I don't have a problem with Republicans. I have a problem with fascists and neo-conservatives, though those are pretty much one and the same. Ike wouldn't have gotten us into Iraq (though TR very well might have).
John
But this is very good news.
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WillyBrandt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:31 PM
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11. I really respect the guy for remaining a Republican
And trying to change his party from the inside out--or rather, trying to reclaim it from the kooks.

Sounds like an impressive dude.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-17-04 01:34 PM
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12. Awesome, I was worried when I read that Teddy IV was republican
a month ago but now I admire the guy. Good on Peterson too.
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